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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
Cc: Bhupesh <bhupesh@igalia.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 2/3] treewide: Switch memcpy() users of 'task->comm' to a more safer implementation
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2025 16:37:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wixR7ZR+aebFsWX4qWZ84tMTmyNWLUPmTy3YvaNJGqd-Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B9C50D0B-DCD9-41A2-895D-4899728AF605@kernel.org>

On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 at 16:19, Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> That works for me! I just get twitchy around seeing memcpy used for strings. :) if we're gonna NUL after the memcpy, just use strscpy_pad().

I do worry a tiny bit about performance.

Because 'memcpy+set last byte to NUL' really is just a couple of
instructions when we're talking small constant-sized arrays.

strscpy_pad() isn't horrible, but it's still at another level. And
most of the cost is that "return the length" which people often don't
care about.

Dang, I wish we had some compiler trick to say "if the value isn't
used, do X, if it _is_ used do Y".

It's such a trivial thing in the compiler itself, and the information
is there, but I don't think it is exposed in any useful way.

In fact, it *is* exposed in one way I can think of:

   __attribute__((__warn_unused_result__))

but not in a useful form for actually generating different code.

Some kind of "__builtin_if_used(x,y)" where it picks 'x' if the value
is used, and 'y' if it isn't would be lovely for this.

Then you could do things like

    #define my_helper(x) \
        __builtin_if_used( \
                full_semantics(x), \
                simpler_version(x))

when having a return value means extra work and most people don't care.

Maybe it exists in some form that I haven't thought of?

Any compiler people around?

                 Linus


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-26 23:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-24 12:36 [PATCH v6 0/3] Add support for long task name Bhupesh
2025-07-24 12:36 ` [PATCH v6 1/3] exec: Remove obsolete comments Bhupesh
2025-07-24 23:50   ` Kees Cook
2025-07-24 12:36 ` [PATCH v6 2/3] treewide: Switch memcpy() users of 'task->comm' to a more safer implementation Bhupesh
2025-07-24 23:49   ` Kees Cook
2025-07-26 17:50     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-26 23:19       ` Kees Cook
2025-07-26 23:37         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2025-08-05 11:13           ` Bhupesh Sharma
2025-07-24 12:36 ` [PATCH v6 3/3] include: Set tsk->comm length to 64 bytes Bhupesh
2025-07-24 23:38   ` Kees Cook
2025-07-26 11:20   ` kernel test robot

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