From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: remove unintentional voluntary preemption in get_mmap_lock_carefully
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 06:55:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=win-keZbx6GFC4Q6VXUiFLfWxVDqcAUoV2A38rN29H5Xw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZOLg2kmvKb4eGDrt@casper.infradead.org>
On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 at 05:58, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> The might_sleep() is clearly safe, but I thought of a different take on
> the problem you've found, which is that we used to check need_resched
> on _every_ page fault, because we used to take the mmap_lock on every
> page fault. Now we only check it on the minority of page faults which
> can't be handled under the VMA lock. But we can't just slam a
> might_resched() into the start of the fault handler, because of the
> problem you outlined above.
Bah.
I decided that there is no way the might_sleep() can be the right
thing to do inside get_mmap_lock_carefully(), because the whole point
of that function existing is that we might have a kernel bug causing a
wild pointer access.
And that kernel bug would be about the subsequent oops, not the fact
that we might be sleeping in a bad context.
So I have just removed the existing might_sleep() entirely, because
both the warning it can generate _and_ the voluntary scheduling point
are bad things in that context.
I do think that maybe we should then re-introduce the might_sleep() in
some actually appropriate place in the page fault path, which might be
'handle_mm_fault()'.
But I think that's a separate - if related - issue to the whole "this
was always the wrong point for might_sleep()" issue that Mateusz
noticed.
We are generally much too timid about removing old debug checks that
don't really make sense.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-08-21 4:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-20 10:43 Mateusz Guzik
2023-08-20 11:36 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-20 12:41 ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-08-20 12:46 ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-08-20 12:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-20 12:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-20 13:08 ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-08-20 13:00 ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-08-20 18:12 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-21 1:13 ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-08-21 3:58 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-21 4:55 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2023-08-21 5:38 ` Linus Torvalds
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