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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>,  Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 linux-xfs <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	 Namjae Jeon <namjae.jeon@samsung.com>,
	Ashish Sangwan <a.sangwan@samsung.com>,
	 "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Ext4 Developers List <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: writeback completion soft lockup BUG in folio_wake_bit()
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2022 11:56:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wiky+cT7xF_2S94ToEjm=XNX73CsFHaQJH3tzYQ+Vb1mw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220318131600.iv7ct2m4o52plkhl@quack3.lan>

On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 6:16 AM Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
>
> I agree with Dave that 'keep_towrite' thing is kind of self-inflicted
> damage on the ext4 side (we need to write out some blocks underlying the
> page but cannot write all from the transaction commit code, so we need to
> keep xarray tags intact so that data integrity sync cannot miss the page).
> Also it is no longer needed in the current default ext4 setup. But if you
> have blocksize < pagesize and mount the fs with 'dioreadlock,data=ordered'
> mount options, the hack is still needed AFAIK and we don't have a
> reasonable way around it.

I assume you meant 'dioread_lock'.

Which seems to be the default (even if 'data=ordered' is not).

Anyway - if it's not a problem for any current default setting, maybe
the solution is to warn about this case and turn it off?

IOW, we could simply warn about "data=ordered is no longer supported"
and turn it into data=journal.

Obviously *only* do this for the case of "blocksize < PAGE_SIZE".

If this ext4 thing is (a) obsolete and (b) causes VFS-level problems
that nobody else has, I really think we'd be much better off disabling
it than trying to work with it.

                 Linus


  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-18 18:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-15 19:07 Brian Foster
2022-03-16 20:59 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-03-16 23:35   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-17 15:04     ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-03-17 19:26       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-17 21:16         ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-03-18 13:16           ` Jan Kara
2022-03-18 18:56             ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2022-03-19 16:23               ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-03-30 15:55                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-17 15:31     ` Brian Foster
2022-03-17 13:51   ` Brian Foster
2022-03-18 14:14     ` Brian Foster
2022-03-18 14:45       ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-03-18 18:58         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-20  1:35           ` Dan Williams
2022-10-23 22:38             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-24 19:39               ` Tim Chen
2022-10-24 19:43                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-24 20:14                   ` Dan Williams
2022-10-24 20:13               ` Dan Williams
2022-10-24 20:28                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-24 20:35                   ` Dan Williams
2022-10-25 15:58                     ` Arechiga Lopez, Jesus A
2022-10-25 19:19                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-10-25 19:20                     ` Linus Torvalds

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