From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-xfs <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Subject: Re: writeback completion soft lockup BUG in folio_wake_bit()
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 12:26:35 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wiZvOpaP0DVyqOnspFqpXRaT6q53=gnA2psxnf5dbt7bw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YjNN5SzHELGig+U4@casper.infradead.org>
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 8:04 AM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> So how about we do something like this:
>
> - Make folio_start_writeback() and set_page_writeback() return void,
> fixing up AFS and NFS.
> - Add a folio_wait_start_writeback() to use in the VFS
> - Remove the calls to set_page_writeback() in the filesystems
That sounds lovely, but it does worry me a bit. Not just the odd
'keepwrite' thing, but also the whole ordering between the folio bit
and the tagging bits. Does the ordering possibly matter?
That whole "xyz_writeback_keepwrite()" thing seems odd. It's used in
only one place (the folio version isn't used at all):
ext4_writepage():
ext4_walk_page_buffers() fails:
redirty_page_for_writepage(wbc, page);
keep_towrite = true;
ext4_bio_write_page().
which just looks odd. Why does it even try to continue to do the
writepage when the page buffer thing has failed?
In the regular write path (ie ext4_write_begin()), a
ext4_walk_page_buffers() failure is fatal or causes a retry). Why is
ext4_writepage() any different? Particularly since it wants to keep
the page dirty, then trying to do the writeback just seems wrong.
So this code is all a bit odd, I suspect there are decades of "people
continued to do what they historically did" changes, and it is all
worrisome.
Your cleanup sounds like the right thing, but I also think that
getting rid of that 'keepwrite' thing would also be the right thing.
And it all worries me.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-17 19:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-15 19:07 Brian Foster
2022-03-16 20:59 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-03-16 23:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-17 15:04 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-03-17 19:26 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2022-03-17 21:16 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-03-18 13:16 ` Jan Kara
2022-03-18 18:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-19 16:23 ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-03-30 15:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-17 15:31 ` Brian Foster
2022-03-17 13:51 ` Brian Foster
2022-03-18 14:14 ` Brian Foster
2022-03-18 14:45 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-03-18 18:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-20 1:35 ` Dan Williams
2022-10-23 22:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-24 19:39 ` Tim Chen
2022-10-24 19:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-24 20:14 ` Dan Williams
2022-10-24 20:13 ` Dan Williams
2022-10-24 20:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-24 20:35 ` Dan Williams
2022-10-25 15:58 ` Arechiga Lopez, Jesus A
2022-10-25 19:19 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-10-25 19:20 ` Linus Torvalds
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