From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
david@redhat.com, patches@lists.linux.dev,
linux-modules@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pmladek@suse.com,
petr.pavlu@suse.com, prarit@redhat.com,
gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, rafael@kernel.org,
christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu, tglx@linutronix.de,
song@kernel.org, rppt@kernel.org, willy@infradead.org,
vbabka@suse.cz, mhocko@suse.com, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/7] sempahore: add a helper for a concurrency limiter
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2023 09:50:39 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=whF6Ta_KcJP2eC78+Mstv+vAku8ATRMbv98sf9VhdvySQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230329091935.GP4253@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 2:19 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> Arguably DEFINE_SEMAPHORE() should have the argument, as binary
> semaphores are a special case, but then we gotta go and fix up all
> users.
Using semaphores for just pure mutual exclusion used to be *the* most
common use of it, which is why we didn't have an argument.
Then we got the mutexes, and now semaphores are almost entirely a legacy thing.
I think we should just make DEFINE_SEMAPHORE() take the number, and
people who want a mutex should either put in the "1", or they should
just use a mutex.
> /me git-greps a little.. Hmm, not too bad.
>
> How's this?
I'd actually prefer to not have that DEFINE_BINARY_SEMAPHORE() at all.
It really shouldn't exist in this day and age.
It's not even less typing, ie
static DEFINE_SEMAPHORE(efivars_lock, 1);
is actually shorter than
static DEFINE_BINARY_SEMAPHORE(efivars_lock);
And what you actually *want* is
static DEFINE_MUTEX(efivars_lock);
and converting the up/down to mutex_unlock/mutex_lock.
So let's just make it clear that the only reason to use semaphores
these days is for counting semaphores, and just make
DEFINE_SEMAPHORE() take the number.
Strangely, sema_init() already does that, but I guess that's because
some people really *do* use semaphores for concurrency control (ie I
see things like
sema_init(&dc->in_flight, 64);
which is clearly using a semaphore in that very traditional way).
So ack on your patch, but don't bother with DEFINE_BINARY_SEMAPHORE().
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-03-29 16:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-29 5:31 [PATCH 0/7] module: avoid userspace pressure on unwanted allocations Luis Chamberlain
2023-03-29 5:31 ` [PATCH 1/7] module: move finished_loading() Luis Chamberlain
2023-03-29 5:31 ` [PATCH 2/7] module: extract patient module check into helper Luis Chamberlain
2023-03-29 5:31 ` [PATCH 3/7] module: avoid allocation if module is already present and ready Luis Chamberlain
2023-03-29 5:31 ` [PATCH 4/7] sempahore: add a helper for a concurrency limiter Luis Chamberlain
2023-03-29 7:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-29 7:51 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-03-29 9:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-29 9:49 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-03-29 10:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-29 16:50 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2023-03-30 11:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-30 16:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-31 3:42 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2023-03-31 8:05 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-31 3:45 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-03-31 4:06 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-31 4:13 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-03-31 4:11 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2023-03-29 5:31 ` [PATCH 5/7] modules/kmod: replace implementation with a sempahore Luis Chamberlain
2023-03-29 5:31 ` [PATCH 6/7] debugfs: add debugfs_create_atomic64_t for atomic64_t Luis Chamberlain
2023-03-29 5:46 ` Greg KH
2023-03-29 5:31 ` [PATCH 7/7] module: add debug stats to help identify memory pressure Luis Chamberlain
2023-03-29 5:46 ` Greg KH
2023-03-29 6:04 ` Luis Chamberlain
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