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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
Cc: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	 Naveen N Rao <naveen@kernel.org>,
	Madhavan Srinivasan <maddy@linux.ibm.com>,
	 Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	 Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	 Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>,
	 Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	Andre Almeida <andrealmeid@igalia.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>,
	 Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] uaccess: Add speculation barrier to copy_from_user_iter()
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 08:15:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wh+zcmrHM5ryM=_71vEwjaRjwRHVgFu8WRG5xsgu3ku+A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2f569008-dd66-4bb6-bf5e-f2317bb95e10@csgroup.eu>

On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 at 22:49, Christophe Leroy
<christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu> wrote:
>
> >
> > (Although I also suspect that when we added ITER_UBUF we might have
> > created cases where those user addresses aren't checked at iter
> > creation time any more).
> >
>
> Let's take the follow path as an exemple:
>
> snd_pcm_ioctl(SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_WRITEI_FRAMES)
>    snd_pcm_common_ioctl()
>      snd_pcm_xferi_frames_ioctl()
>        snd_pcm_lib_write()
>          __snd_pcm_lib_xfer()
>            default_write_copy()
>              copy_from_iter()
>                _copy_from_iter()
>                  __copy_from_iter()
>                    iterate_and_advance()
>                      iterate_and_advance2()
>                        iterate_iovec()
>                          copy_from_user_iter()
>
> As far as I can see, none of those functions check the accessibility of
> the iovec. Am I missing something ?

So we still to do this checking at creation time (see import_iovec ->
__import_iovec, and import_ubuf).

In the path you give as an example, the check happens at that
"do_transfer()" stage when it does

        err = import_ubuf(type, (__force void __user *)data, bytes, &iter);

but yeah, it's very non-obvious (see __snd_pcm_lib_xfer(), which calls
writer() which is either interleaved_copy() or noninterleaved_copy(),
and then they do that do_transfer() thing which does that
import_ubuf() thing.

So *because* you were supposed to have checked your iov_iters
beforehand, the actual iter code itself at some point just used
__copy_to_user() directly with no checking at all.

And that all was really *much* too subtle, and Al fixed this a few
years ago (see commit 09fc68dc66f7: "iov_iter: saner checks on
copyin/copyout")

                  Linus


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-06-24 15:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-22  9:52 [PATCH 0/5] powerpc: Implement masked user access Christophe Leroy
2025-06-22  9:52 ` [PATCH 1/5] uaccess: Add masked_user_{read/write}_access_begin Christophe Leroy
2025-06-22 16:35   ` David Laight
2025-06-24  5:34     ` Christophe Leroy
2025-06-22  9:52 ` [PATCH 2/5] uaccess: Add speculation barrier to copy_from_user_iter() Christophe Leroy
2025-06-22 16:52   ` David Laight
2025-06-22 16:57   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-06-22 20:18     ` David Laight
2025-06-24  5:49     ` Christophe Leroy
2025-06-24  8:07       ` David Laight
2025-06-24 15:15       ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2025-06-22  9:52 ` [PATCH 3/5] powerpc: Remove unused size parametre to KUAP enabling/disabling functions Christophe Leroy
2025-06-22  9:52 ` [PATCH 4/5] powerpc: Move barrier_nospec() out of allow_read_{from/write}_user() Christophe Leroy
2025-06-22  9:52 ` [PATCH 5/5] powerpc: Implement masked user access Christophe Leroy
2025-06-22 17:13   ` David Laight
2025-06-22 17:40     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-06-22 19:51       ` David Laight
2025-06-22 18:57     ` Segher Boessenkool
2025-06-22 16:20 ` [PATCH 0/5] " David Laight
2025-06-24  5:27   ` Christophe Leroy
2025-06-24  8:32     ` David Laight
2025-06-24 21:37       ` Segher Boessenkool
2025-06-25  8:30         ` David Laight
2025-06-24 13:17     ` Segher Boessenkool
2025-06-24 16:50       ` David Laight
2025-06-24 18:25         ` Segher Boessenkool
2025-06-24 21:08           ` David Laight
2025-06-26  5:56             ` Christophe Leroy
2025-06-26 22:01               ` Segher Boessenkool
2025-07-05 10:55                 ` Christophe Leroy
2025-07-05 11:42                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2025-07-05 18:33                 ` David Laight
2025-07-05 20:15                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2025-07-05 21:05                     ` David Laight
2025-07-05 21:37                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2025-06-26 21:39             ` Segher Boessenkool

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