From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@redhat.com>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
linux-s390 <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Buffered I/O broken on s390x with page faults disabled (gfs2)
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2022 12:54:55 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wh+U6SkJtNeWCJBaKv31dQALfXn_jCSo9=o5p-_==bBrA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=whycC7kUa=_CiDr9pPpPp8g+9u7kKe1ssSsgGGkhBTvVg@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:48 PM Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> Basically FAULT_FLAG_KILLABLE implies a kind of "half-way ALLOW_RETRY"
> - allow aborting, but only for the fatal signal case.
Side note: I'm not saying this is a *good* thing - it is very
confusing - but it's due to historical reasons where architectures
ended up getting these features incrementally.
So FAULT_FLAG_KILLABLE was one such half-way step, where you could
abort things without actually retrying them, because a fatal signal
could be handled without then repeating things.
These days, I think all architectures have converted their actual
fault handling to the full "retry/abort/error/success" spectrum, but
then you still have other uses of handle_mm_fault() that may not be
willing to have mmap_sem be dropped in the middle of operations
because they keep a 'vma' list around or something like that.
And then FAULT_FLAG_KILLABLE can still be a good way to say "ok, I'm
willing to _abort_ things entirely, but you can't drop the mmap sem
and ask me to recover if it's not fatal".
And this is all entirely due to historical behavior, since
_originally_ handle_mm_fault() wouldn't ever drop mmap_sem at all.
These days it would probably be simpler to *not* have all these
complicated special cases, and just say that FAULT_FLAG_ALLOW_RETRY is
always true.
But then somebody would have to walk through every user to make sure it's ok...
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-09 20:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-07 22:52 Andreas Gruenbacher
2022-03-07 23:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-08 8:21 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-03-08 8:37 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-03-08 12:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-03-08 12:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-03-08 13:20 ` Gerald Schaefer
2022-03-08 13:32 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-03-08 14:14 ` Gerald Schaefer
2022-03-08 17:23 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-03-08 17:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-08 17:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-08 19:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-08 20:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-08 23:24 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2022-03-09 0:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-09 18:42 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2022-03-09 19:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-09 20:57 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2022-03-09 21:08 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2022-03-10 12:13 ` Filipe Manana
2022-03-09 19:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-09 19:35 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2022-03-09 20:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-09 20:36 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2022-03-09 20:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-09 20:54 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2022-03-10 17:13 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-03-10 18:00 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2022-03-10 18:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-10 18:38 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-03-10 18:47 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2022-03-10 19:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-10 19:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-10 20:23 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2022-03-08 17:47 ` David Hildenbrand
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