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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Kiryl Shutsemau <kirill@shutemov.name>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	 Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Optimizing small reads
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 09:06:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wgBkLXAFwj6z_6LtSzP8EVJi53HDa9wvZqcp1kr7UWzKw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jzpbwmoygmjsltnqfdgnq4p75tg74bdamq3hne7t32mof4m5xo@lcw3afbr4daf>

On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 at 08:35, Kiryl Shutsemau <kirill@shutemov.name> wrote:
>
> The patch is below. Can I use your Signed-off-by for it?

Sure. But you can also just take ownership.

> Here's some numbers. I cannot explain some of this. Like, there should
> be zero changes for block size above 256, but...

I'd assume it's the usual "random cache/code placement" thing. The
numbers seem reasonably consistent, and guessing from your table you
did basically a "random file / random offset" thing.

And even if you go "but with random files and random offsets, cache
placement should be random too", that's not true for the I$ side.

So you could have some unlucky placement of the helper routines (like
the iov stuff) that hits one case but not the other.

> 16 threads, reads from 4k file(s), MiB/s
>
>  ---------------------------------------------------------
> | Block | Baseline  | Baseline   | Patched   |  Patched   |
> | size  | same file | diff files | same file | diff files |
>  ---------------------------------------------------------
> |     1 |      11.6 |       27.6 |      33.5 |       33.4 |
> |    32 |     375   |      880   |    1027   |     1028   |
> |   256 |    2940   |     6932   |    7872   |     7884   |
> |  1024 |   11500   |    26900   |   11400   |    28300   |
> |  4096 |   46500   |   103000   |   45700   |   108000   |

The high-level pattern is fairly clear, with the big improvement being
in the "small reads hitting same file", so at least the numbers don't
look crazy.

                    Linus


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-10-13 16:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-03  2:18 Linus Torvalds
2025-10-03  3:32 ` Luis Chamberlain
2025-10-15 21:31   ` Swarna Prabhu
2025-10-03  9:55 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-03 16:18   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-03 16:40     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-03 17:23       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-03 17:49         ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-06 11:44           ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-06 15:50             ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-06 18:04               ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-06 18:14                 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-07 21:47                 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-07 22:35                   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-07 22:54                     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-07 23:30                       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-08 14:54                         ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-08 16:27                           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-08 17:03                             ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-09 16:22                               ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-09 17:29                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-10 10:10                                   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-10 17:51                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-13 15:35                                       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-13 15:39                                         ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-13 16:19                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-14 12:58                                             ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-14 16:41                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-13 16:06                                         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2025-10-13 17:26                                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-10-14  3:20                                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-10-08 10:28                       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-08 16:24                         ` Linus Torvalds

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