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From: Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	 linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	 Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/4] fs: Add IOCB_NOIO flag for generic_file_read_iter
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2020 11:45:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHc6FU5rz+2NZwvXqAxSAme9uvY8cGEHjnBmwi0S6NFnHRbUCA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wiDA9wm09e1aOSwqq9=e5iTEP5ncheux=C=p62h7dWvbA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 10:18 PM Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 12:58 PM Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > Of course, if you want to avoid both new reads to be submitted _and_
> > > avoid waiting for existing pending reads, you should just set both
> > > flags, and you get the semantics you want. So for your case, this may
> > > not make any difference.
> >
> > Indeed, in the gfs2 case, waiting for existing pending reads should be
> > fine. I'll send an update after some testing.
>
> Do note that "wait for pending reads" very much does imply "wait for
> those reads to _complete_".
>
> And maybe the IO completion handler itself ends up having to finalize
> something and take the lock to do that?
>
> So in that case, even just "waiting" will cause a deadlock. Not
> because the waiter itself needs the lock, but because the thing it
> waits for might possibly need it.
>
> But in many simple cases, IO completion shouldn't need any filesystem
> locks. I just don't know the gfs2 code at all, so I'm not even going
> to guess. I just wanted to mention it.

Yes, that makes sense. Luckily gfs2 doesn't do any such locking on IO
completion.

Thanks,
Andreas



  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-03  9:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-02 16:51 [RFC 0/4] Fix gfs2 readahead deadlocks Andreas Gruenbacher
2020-07-02 16:51 ` [RFC 1/4] gfs2: Revert readahead conversion Andreas Gruenbacher
2020-07-02 16:51 ` [RFC 2/4] fs: Add IOCB_NOIO flag for generic_file_read_iter Andreas Gruenbacher
2020-07-02 18:06   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02 19:58     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2020-07-02 20:17       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-03  9:45         ` Andreas Gruenbacher [this message]
2020-07-07 14:30     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2020-07-02 16:51 ` [RFC 3/4] gfs2: Rework read and page fault locking Andreas Gruenbacher
2020-07-02 16:51 ` [RFC 4/4] gfs2: Reinstate readahead conversion Andreas Gruenbacher
2020-07-02 18:10 ` [RFC 0/4] Fix gfs2 readahead deadlocks Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02 18:23   ` Andreas Gruenbacher

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