From: Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)" <naoya.horiguchi@nec.com>,
"Hugh Dickins" <hughd@google.com>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
"Peter Xu" <peterx@redhat.com>,
"Oscar Salvador" <osalvador@suse.de>,
"Linux MM" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"Linux FS-devel Mailing List" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v4 PATCH 0/6] Solve silent data loss caused by poisoned page cache (shmem/tmpfs)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 14:48:14 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHbLzkrRdT1gZm-FBmZU8WKqsLYfC6Q2cF8iGDWqOV6==xfsnA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211015132800.357d891d0b3ad34adb9c7383@linux-foundation.org>
On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 1:28 PM Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 12:16:09 -0700 Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > When discussing the patch that splits page cache THP in order to offline the
> > poisoned page, Noaya mentioned there is a bigger problem [1] that prevents this
> > from working since the page cache page will be truncated if uncorrectable
> > errors happen. By looking this deeper it turns out this approach (truncating
> > poisoned page) may incur silent data loss for all non-readonly filesystems if
> > the page is dirty. It may be worse for in-memory filesystem, e.g. shmem/tmpfs
> > since the data blocks are actually gone.
> >
> > To solve this problem we could keep the poisoned dirty page in page cache then
> > notify the users on any later access, e.g. page fault, read/write, etc. The
> > clean page could be truncated as is since they can be reread from disk later on.
> >
> > The consequence is the filesystems may find poisoned page and manipulate it as
> > healthy page since all the filesystems actually don't check if the page is
> > poisoned or not in all the relevant paths except page fault. In general, we
> > need make the filesystems be aware of poisoned page before we could keep the
> > poisoned page in page cache in order to solve the data loss problem.
>
> Is the "RFC" still accurate, or might it be an accidental leftover?
Yeah, I think it can be removed.
>
> I grabbed this series as-is for some testing, but I do think it wouild
> be better if it was delivered as two separate series - one series for
> the -stable material and one series for the 5.16-rc1 material.
Yeah, the patch 1/6 and patch 2/6 should go to -stable, then the
remaining patches are for 5.16-rc1. Thanks for taking them.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-10-15 21:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-14 19:16 Yang Shi
2021-10-14 19:16 ` [v4 PATCH 1/6] mm: hwpoison: remove the unnecessary THP check Yang Shi
2021-10-14 19:16 ` [v4 PATCH 2/6] mm: filemap: check if THP has hwpoisoned subpage for PMD page fault Yang Shi
2021-10-19 5:50 ` Naoya Horiguchi
2021-10-19 17:13 ` Yang Shi
2021-10-14 19:16 ` [v4 PATCH 3/6] mm: filemap: coding style cleanup for filemap_map_pmd() Yang Shi
2021-10-19 5:51 ` Naoya Horiguchi
2021-10-14 19:16 ` [v4 PATCH 4/6] mm: hwpoison: refactor refcount check handling Yang Shi
2021-10-14 19:16 ` [v4 PATCH 5/6] mm: shmem: don't truncate page if memory failure happens Yang Shi
2021-10-19 5:52 ` Naoya Horiguchi
2021-10-19 17:29 ` Yang Shi
2021-10-19 22:30 ` Naoya Horiguchi
2021-10-20 18:32 ` Yang Shi
2021-10-14 19:16 ` [v4 PATCH 6/6] mm: hwpoison: handle non-anonymous THP correctly Yang Shi
2021-10-15 20:28 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 0/6] Solve silent data loss caused by poisoned page cache (shmem/tmpfs) Andrew Morton
2021-10-15 21:48 ` Yang Shi [this message]
2021-10-19 5:53 ` Naoya Horiguchi
2021-10-19 17:32 ` Yang Shi
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