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From: Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>
To: Jane Chu <jane.chu@oracle.com>
Cc: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	 "djwong@kernel.org" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	 "linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: Is it possible to corrupt disk when writeback page with undetected UE?
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 17:30:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHbLzkrNnp5SsMUJykK5M_sy+C1+smm1CgYvaboO86FfLbZOnA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cec5cd9a-a1de-fbfa-65f9-07336755b6b4@oracle.com>

On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 5:27 PM Jane Chu <jane.chu@oracle.com> wrote:
>
> On 9/15/2022 3:50 PM, Luck, Tony wrote:
> >> Suppose there is a UE in a DRAM page that is backed by a disk file.
> >> The UE hasn't been reported to the kernel, but low level firmware
> >> initiated scrubbing has already logged the UE.
> >>
> >> The page is then dirtied by a write, although the write clearly failed,
> >> it didn't trigger an MCE.
> >>
> >> And without a subsequent read from the page, at some point, the page is
> >> written back to the disk, leaving a PAGE_SIZE of zeros in the targeted
> >> disk blocks.
> >>
> >> Is this mode of disk corruption possible?
> >
> > I didn't look at what was written to disk, but I have seen this. My test sequence
> > was to compile and then immediately run an error injection test program that
> > injected a memory UC error to an instruction.
> >
> > Because the program was freshly compiled, the executable file was in the
> > page cache with all pages marked as modified. Later a sync (or memory
> > pressure) wrote the dirty page with poison to filesystem.
> >
> > I did see an error reported by the disk controller.
>
> Thanks a lot for this information!
>
> Were you using madvise to inject an error to a mmap'ed address?
> or a different tool?  Do you still have the test documented
> somewhere?
>
> And, aside from verifying every write with a read prior to sync,
> any suggestion to minimize the window of such corruption?

We discussed the topic at this year's LSFMM summit. Please refer to
https://lwn.net/Articles/893565/

>
> thanks!
> -jane
>
> >
> > -Tony
>


  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-16  0:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-15 22:36 Jane Chu
2022-09-15 22:50 ` Luck, Tony
2022-09-16  0:26   ` Jane Chu
2022-09-16  0:30     ` Yang Shi [this message]
2022-09-16  0:51       ` Jane Chu
2022-09-16 16:17     ` Luck, Tony
2022-09-16 19:26       ` Jane Chu

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