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From: Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	 Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/6] mm/migrate_pages: split unmap_and_move() to _unmap() and _move()
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 20:25:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHbLzkqTz9aNE=thZR2sw2SVf2YWOLCmSNgmEOJD587s+28A1w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9d72f2ed-9a92-e67b-3af5-79050004a1a4@nvidia.com>

On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 7:57 PM John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com> wrote:
>
> On 9/27/22 19:14, Yang Shi wrote:
> > IIRC, the writeback may not call generic_writepages. On my ext4
> > filesystem, the writeback call stack looks like:
> >
> > @[
> >     ext4_writepages+1
> >     do_writepages+191
> >     __writeback_single_inode+65
> >     writeback_sb_inodes+477
> >     __writeback_inodes_wb+76
> >     wb_writeback+457
> >     wb_workfn+680
> >     process_one_work+485
> >     worker_thread+80
> >     kthread+231
> >     ret_from_fork+34
> > ]: 2
> >
>
> Sure, that's fine for ext4, in that particular case, but
>
> a) not all filesystems have .writepages hooked up. That's why
> do_writepages() checks for .writepages(), and falls back to
> .writepage():
>
>         if (mapping->a_ops->writepages)
>                 ret = mapping->a_ops->writepages(mapping, wbc);
>         else
>                 ret = generic_writepages(mapping, wbc);
>
> , and
>
> b) there are also a lot of places and ways to invoke writebacks. There
> are periodic writebacks, and there are data integrity (WB_SYNC_ALL)
> writebacks, and other places where a page needs to be cleaned--so, a lot
> of call sites. Some of which will land on a .writepage() sometimes, even
> now.
>
> For just one example, I see migrate.c's writeout() function directly
> calling writepage():
>
>         rc = mapping->a_ops->writepage(&folio->page, &wbc);

Thanks, John. You are right. I think "deprecated" is inaccurate,
.writepage is actually no longer used in memory reclaim context, but
it is still used for other contexts.

Anyway I think what we tried to figure out in the first place is
whether it is possible that filesystem writeback have dead lock with
the new batch migration or not. I think the conclusion didn't change.

>
>
> thanks,
>
> --
> John Hubbard
> NVIDIA
>


  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-28  3:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-21  6:06 [RFC 0/6] migrate_pages(): batch TLB flushing Huang Ying
2022-09-21  6:06 ` [RFC 1/6] mm/migrate_pages: separate huge page and normal pages migration Huang Ying
2022-09-21 15:55   ` Zi Yan
2022-09-22  1:14     ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-22  6:03   ` Baolin Wang
2022-09-22  6:22     ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-21  6:06 ` [RFC 2/6] mm/migrate_pages: split unmap_and_move() to _unmap() and _move() Huang Ying
2022-09-21 16:08   ` Zi Yan
2022-09-22  1:15     ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-22  6:36   ` Baolin Wang
2022-09-26  9:28   ` Alistair Popple
2022-09-26 18:06     ` Yang Shi
2022-09-27  0:02       ` Alistair Popple
2022-09-27  1:51         ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-27 20:34           ` John Hubbard
2022-09-27 20:57             ` Yang Shi
2022-09-28  0:59               ` Alistair Popple
2022-09-28  1:41                 ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-28  1:44                   ` John Hubbard
2022-09-28  1:49                     ` Yang Shi
2022-09-28  1:56                       ` John Hubbard
2022-09-28  2:14                         ` Yang Shi
2022-09-28  2:57                           ` John Hubbard
2022-09-28  3:25                             ` Yang Shi [this message]
2022-09-28  3:39                               ` Yang Shi
2022-09-27 20:56           ` Yang Shi
2022-09-27 20:54         ` Yang Shi
2022-09-21  6:06 ` [RFC 3/6] mm/migrate_pages: restrict number of pages to migrate in batch Huang Ying
2022-09-21 16:10   ` Zi Yan
2022-09-21 16:15     ` Zi Yan
2022-09-22  1:15     ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-21  6:06 ` [RFC 4/6] mm/migrate_pages: batch _unmap and _move Huang Ying
2022-09-21  6:06 ` [RFC 5/6] mm/migrate_pages: share more code between " Huang Ying
2022-09-21  6:06 ` [RFC 6/6] mm/migrate_pages: batch flushing TLB Huang Ying
2022-09-21 15:47 ` [RFC 0/6] migrate_pages(): batch TLB flushing Zi Yan
2022-09-22  1:45   ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-22  3:47   ` haoxin
2022-09-22  4:36     ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-22 12:50 ` Bharata B Rao
2022-09-23  7:52   ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-27 10:46     ` Bharata B Rao
2022-09-28  1:46       ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-26  9:11 ` Alistair Popple
2022-09-27 11:21 ` haoxin
2022-09-28  2:01   ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-28  3:33     ` haoxin
2022-09-28  4:53       ` Huang, Ying
2022-11-01 14:49   ` Hesham Almatary
2022-11-02  3:14     ` Huang, Ying
2022-11-02 14:13       ` Hesham Almatary

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