From: Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>
To: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>, Helge Deller <deller@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] mm: mmap: Allow mmap(MAP_STACK) to map growable stack
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:05:50 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHbLzkpUXqx-z55NhDRnWp2T8s0DgJaofyAfQeu-7g0QskJuew@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tvllphck5fky6zqhkpcomjj5zuncgligdqapwkv5qwqamtjfc7@3geizoueze4d>
On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 4:05 PM Liam R. Howlett <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com> wrote:
>
> * Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com> [240911 18:16]:
> > On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 12:49 PM Liam R. Howlett
> > <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > * Helge Deller <deller@kernel.org> [240911 15:20]:
> > > > This is a RFC to change the behaviour of mmap(MAP_STACK) to be
> > > > sufficient to map memory for usage as stack on all architectures.
> > > > Currently MAP_STACK is a no-op on Linux, and instead MAP_GROWSDOWN
> > > > has to be used.
> > > > To clarify, here is the relevant info from the mmap() man page:
> > > >
> > > > MAP_GROWSDOWN
> > > > This flag is used for stacks. It indicates to the kernel virtual
> > > > memory system that the mapping should extend downward in memory. The
> > > > return address is one page lower than the memory area that is
> > > > actually created in the process's virtual address space. Touching an
> > > > address in the "guard" page below the mapping will cause the mapping
> > > > to grow by a page. This growth can be repeated until the mapping
> > > > grows to within a page of the high end of the next lower mapping,
> > > > at which point touching the "guard" page will result in a SIGSEGV
> > > > signal.
> > > >
> > > > MAP_STACK (since Linux 2.6.27)
> > > > Allocate the mapping at an address suitable for a process or thread
> > > > stack.
> > > >
> > > > This flag is currently a no-op on Linux. However, by employing this
> > > > flag, applications can ensure that they transparently obtain support
> > > > if the flag is implemented in the future. Thus, it is used in the
> > > > glibc threading implementation to allow for the fact that
> > > > some architectures may (later) require special treatment for
> > > > stack allocations. A further reason to employ this flag is
> > > > portability: MAP_STACK exists (and has an effect) on some
> > > > other systems (e.g., some of the BSDs).
> > > >
> > > > The reason to suggest this change is, that on the parisc architecture the
> > > > stack grows upwards. As such, using solely the MAP_GROWSDOWN flag will not
> > > > work. Note that there exists no MAP_GROWSUP flag.
> > > > By changing the behaviour of MAP_STACK to mark the memory area with the
> > > > VM_STACK bit (which is VM_GROWSUP or VM_GROWSDOWN depending on the
> > > > architecture) the MAP_STACK flag does exactly what people would expect on
> > > > all platforms.
> > > >
> > > > This change should have no negative side-effect, as all code which
> > > > used mmap(MAP_GROWSDOWN | MAP_STACK) still work as before.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/include/linux/mman.h b/include/linux/mman.h
> > > > index bcb201ab7a41..66bc72a0cb19 100644
> > > > --- a/include/linux/mman.h
> > > > +++ b/include/linux/mman.h
> > > > @@ -156,6 +156,7 @@ calc_vm_flag_bits(unsigned long flags)
> > > > return _calc_vm_trans(flags, MAP_GROWSDOWN, VM_GROWSDOWN ) |
> > > > _calc_vm_trans(flags, MAP_LOCKED, VM_LOCKED ) |
> > > > _calc_vm_trans(flags, MAP_SYNC, VM_SYNC ) |
> > > > + _calc_vm_trans(flags, MAP_STACK, VM_STACK ) |
> > >
> > > Right now MAP_STACK can be used to set VM_NOHUGEPAGE, but this will
> > > change the user interface to create a vma that will grow. I'm not
> > > entirely sure this is okay?
> >
> > AFAICT, I don't see this is a problem. Currently huge page also skips
> > the VMAs with VM_GROWS* flags set. See vma_is_temporary_stack().
> > __thp_vma_allowable_orders() returns 0 if the vma is a temporary
> > stack.
>
> If someone is using MAP_STACK to avoid having a huge page, they will
> also get a mapping that grows - which is different than what happens
> today.
Yes, I agree. My point is no huge page + grow is fine.
>
> I'm not saying that's right, but someone could be abusing the existing
> flag and this will change the behaviour.
If you mean we will have more grow mapping but they are actually
unnecessary, then I agree someone could abuse the flag.
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > That is mmap(MAP_STACK) would set VM_NOHUGEPAGE right now, with this
> > > change you'd get VM_NOHUGEPAGE | VM_GROWS<something>
> > >
> > > > _calc_vm_trans(flags, MAP_STACK, VM_NOHUGEPAGE) |
> > > > arch_calc_vm_flag_bits(flags);
> > > > }
> > > >
> > >
prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-12 1:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-11 19:20 Helge Deller
2024-09-11 19:48 ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-09-11 22:16 ` Yang Shi
2024-09-11 23:05 ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-09-12 0:50 ` Helge Deller
2024-09-12 1:08 ` Yang Shi
2024-09-12 1:42 ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-09-12 2:39 ` Yang Shi
2024-09-12 1:45 ` Helge Deller
2024-09-12 1:32 ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-09-12 2:09 ` Helge Deller
2024-09-12 15:43 ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-09-12 17:37 ` Helge Deller
2024-09-15 20:04 ` Helge Deller
2024-09-12 18:12 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-12 1:05 ` Yang Shi [this message]
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