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From: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-mm@kvack.org, kernel_team@skhynix.com, kuba@kernel.org,
	 ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org, harry.yoo@oracle.com,
	hawk@kernel.org,  akpm@linux-foundation.org, ast@kernel.org,
	daniel@iogearbox.net,  davem@davemloft.net,
	john.fastabend@gmail.com, andrew+netdev@lunn.ch,
	 edumazet@google.com, pabeni@redhat.com, vishal.moola@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 19/19] mm, netmem: remove the page pool members in struct page
Date: Fri, 9 May 2025 12:04:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHS8izMJx=+229iLt7GphUwioeAK5=CL0Fxi7TVywS2D+c-PKw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aB5FUKRV86Tg92b6@casper.infradead.org>

On Fri, May 9, 2025 at 11:11 AM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 09, 2025 at 10:32:08AM -0700, Mina Almasry wrote:
> > Currently the only restriction on net_iov is that some of its fields
> > need to be cache aligned with some of the fields of struct page, but
>
> Cache aligned?  Do you mean alias (ie be at the same offset)?
>
> > What I would suggest here is, roughly:
> >
> > 1. Add a new struct:
> >
> >                struct netmem_desc {
> >                        unsigned long pp_magic;
> >                        struct page_pool *pp;
> >                        unsigned long _pp_mapping_pad;
> >                        unsigned long dma_addr;
> >                        atomic_long_t pp_ref_count;
> >                };
> >
> > 2. Then update struct page to include this entry instead of the definitions:
> >
> > struct page {
> > ...
> >                struct netmem_desc place_holder_1; /* for page pool */
> > ...
> > }
>
> No, the point is to move these fields out of struct page entirely.
>
> At some point (probably this year), we'll actually kmalloc the netmem_desc
> (and shrink struct page), but for now, it'll overlap the other fields
> in struct page.
>

Right, all I'm saying is that if it's at all possible to keep net_iov
something that can be extended with fields unrelated to struct page,
lets do that. net_iov already has fields that should not belong in
struct page like net_iov_owner and I think more will be added.

I'm thinking netmem_desc can be the fields that are shared between
struct net_iov and struct page (but both can have more specific to the
different memory types). As you say, for now netmem_desc can currently
overlap fields in struct page and struct net_iov, and a follow up
change can replace it with something that gets kmalloced and (I
guess?) there is a pointer in struct page or struct net_iov that
refers to the netmem_desc that contains the shared fields.


-- 
Thanks,
Mina


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-09 19:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-09 11:51 [RFC 00/19] Split netmem from " Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 01/19] netmem: rename struct net_iov to struct netmem_desc Byungchul Park
2025-05-12 13:11   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-05-12 13:29     ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-12 19:14       ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-13  2:00         ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-13 12:58           ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-05-13 12:49       ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-05-14  0:07         ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 02/19] netmem: introduce netmem alloc/put API to wrap page alloc/put API Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 13:39   ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-09 14:08     ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-12 12:30       ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 03/19] page_pool: use netmem alloc/put API in __page_pool_alloc_page_order() Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 04/19] page_pool: rename __page_pool_alloc_page_order() to __page_pool_alloc_large_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 05/19] page_pool: use netmem alloc/put API in __page_pool_alloc_pages_slow() Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 06/19] page_pool: rename page_pool_return_page() to page_pool_return_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 07/19] page_pool: use netmem alloc/put API in page_pool_return_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 08/19] page_pool: rename __page_pool_release_page_dma() to __page_pool_release_netmem_dma() Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 09/19] page_pool: rename __page_pool_put_page() to __page_pool_put_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 10/19] page_pool: rename __page_pool_alloc_pages_slow() to __page_pool_alloc_netmems_slow() Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 11/19] mlx4: use netmem descriptor and API for page pool Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 12/19] netmem: introduce page_pool_recycle_direct_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 13/19] page_pool: expand scope of is_pp_{netmem,page}() to global Byungchul Park
2025-05-12 12:46   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-05-12 12:55     ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-14  3:00     ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-14 11:17       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 14/19] mm: page_alloc: do not directly access page->pp_magic but use is_pp_page() Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 15/19] mlx5: use netmem descriptor and API for page pool Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 16/19] netmem: use _Generic to cover const casting for page_to_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 17/19] netmem: remove __netmem_get_pp() Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 13:47   ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 18/19] page_pool: make page_pool_get_dma_addr() just wrap page_pool_get_dma_addr_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 13:49   ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-10  7:28   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 19/19] mm, netmem: remove the page pool members in struct page Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 17:32   ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-09 18:11     ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-05-09 19:04       ` Mina Almasry [this message]
2025-05-09 19:48         ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-05-12 19:10           ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-09 18:02   ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-05-12 12:51     ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-12 14:42       ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-05-13  1:42         ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-13  3:19           ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-05-13 10:24             ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-10  7:26   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-05-12 12:58     ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 14:09 ` [RFC 00/19] Split netmem from " Mina Almasry
2025-05-12 12:36   ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-12 12:59     ` Pavel Begunkov

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