* Queries regarding consolidated picture of virtualization and SPT/EPT/IOMMU/DMAR/PT
@ 2024-11-18 18:00 Ajay Garg
2024-11-20 16:20 ` Ajay Garg
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From: Ajay Garg @ 2024-11-18 18:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Linux Kernel Mailing List, iommu, kvm, Linux Memory Management List
Hi everyone.
I understand in a para-virtualization environment, VMM maintains a
shadow-page-table (SPT) per process per guest, for GVA => HPA
translation. The hardware/MMU is passed a single pointer to this
shadow-page-table. The guest is aware that it is running in a
virtualization environment, and communicates with VMM to help maintain
the shadow-page-table.
In full-virtualization/HVM virtualization, the guest is unaware that
it is running in a virtualized environment, and all GVA => GPA are
private. The VMM is obviously aware of all HVA => HPA mappings; plus
GPA => HVA is trivial as it's only an offset difference (Extended Page
Table, EPT). The hardware/MMU is passed three things :
* Pointer to guest page-table, for GVA => GPA.
* Offset, for GPA => HVA.
* Pointer to host page-table, for HVA => HPA.
In both the above cases, DMA is a challenge (without IOMMU), as
device-addresses would need to be physically-contiguous. This would in
turn mean that all of GPA needs to be physically-contiguous, which in
turn means that the host would need to spawn guest-process with all of
memory (HVA) which is physically-contiguous - very hard to meet
generally.
*_Kindly correct me if I have made a mistake so far at conceptual level._*
Now, enters IOMMU, providing the ability to DMA with non-contiguous
device-addresses.
Now, my queries are simple :
*
Is IOMMU DMA-Remapping mode (DMAR) analogous to a para-virtualization
environment (as per previous brief context)?
*
Is IOMMU Pass-through (PT) mode analogous to a HVM environment (as per
previous brief context)?
Many thanks in advance for your time; hopefully I have not been a
complete idiot ..
Thanks and Regards,
Ajay
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* Re: Queries regarding consolidated picture of virtualization and SPT/EPT/IOMMU/DMAR/PT
2024-11-18 18:00 Queries regarding consolidated picture of virtualization and SPT/EPT/IOMMU/DMAR/PT Ajay Garg
@ 2024-11-20 16:20 ` Ajay Garg
0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Ajay Garg @ 2024-11-20 16:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Linux Kernel Mailing List, iommu, kvm, Linux Memory Management List
Hi everyone.
Will be grateful for some insight if I am on the right path :)
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 11:30 PM Ajay Garg <ajaygargnsit@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone.
>
> I understand in a para-virtualization environment, VMM maintains a
> shadow-page-table (SPT) per process per guest, for GVA => HPA
> translation. The hardware/MMU is passed a single pointer to this
> shadow-page-table. The guest is aware that it is running in a
> virtualization environment, and communicates with VMM to help maintain
> the shadow-page-table.
>
> In full-virtualization/HVM virtualization, the guest is unaware that
> it is running in a virtualized environment, and all GVA => GPA are
> private. The VMM is obviously aware of all HVA => HPA mappings; plus
> GPA => HVA is trivial as it's only an offset difference (Extended Page
> Table, EPT). The hardware/MMU is passed three things :
>
> * Pointer to guest page-table, for GVA => GPA.
> * Offset, for GPA => HVA.
> * Pointer to host page-table, for HVA => HPA.
>
> In both the above cases, DMA is a challenge (without IOMMU), as
> device-addresses would need to be physically-contiguous. This would in
> turn mean that all of GPA needs to be physically-contiguous, which in
> turn means that the host would need to spawn guest-process with all of
> memory (HVA) which is physically-contiguous - very hard to meet
> generally.
>
> *_Kindly correct me if I have made a mistake so far at conceptual level._*
>
>
> Now, enters IOMMU, providing the ability to DMA with non-contiguous
> device-addresses.
> Now, my queries are simple :
>
> *
> Is IOMMU DMA-Remapping mode (DMAR) analogous to a para-virtualization
> environment (as per previous brief context)?
>
> *
> Is IOMMU Pass-through (PT) mode analogous to a HVM environment (as per
> previous brief context)?
>
>
> Many thanks in advance for your time; hopefully I have not been a
> complete idiot ..
>
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Ajay
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