From: Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
Cc: "Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Eric Dumazet" <edumzaet@google.com>,
"Yosry Ahmed" <yosryahmed@google.com>,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cgroup/rstat: avoid disabling irqs for O(num_cpu)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 07:43:10 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHH2K0ax2M+nXhVDSUvhagmFW+qEgGawSbkw6pAzYR+BAH6UuQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54wer7lbgg4mgxv7ky5zzsgjv2vi4diu7clvcklxgmrp2u4gvn@tr2twe5xdtgt>
On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 10:53 AM Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 12:13:30AM -0700, Greg Thelen wrote:
> > From: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
> >
> > cgroup_rstat_flush_locked() grabs the irq safe cgroup_rstat_lock while
> > iterating all possible cpus. It only drops the lock if there is
> > scheduler or spin lock contention. If neither, then interrupts can be
> > disabled for a long time. On large machines this can disable interrupts
> > for a long enough time to drop network packets. On 400+ CPU machines
> > I've seen interrupt disabled for over 40 msec.
>
> Which kernel was this observed on in production?
>
> >
> > Prevent rstat from disabling interrupts while processing all possible
> > cpus. Instead drop and reacquire cgroup_rstat_lock for each cpu.
>
> Doing for each cpu might be too extreme. Have you tried with some
> batching?
>
> > This
> > approach was previously discussed in
> > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/ZBz%2FV5a7%2F6PZeM7S@slm.duckdns.org/,
> > though this was in the context of an non-irq rstat spin lock.
> >
> > Benchmark this change with:
> > 1) a single stat_reader process with 400 threads, each reading a test
> > memcg's memory.stat repeatedly for 10 seconds.
> > 2) 400 memory hog processes running in the test memcg and repeatedly
> > charging memory until oom killed. Then they repeat charging and oom
> > killing.
> >
>
> Though this benchmark seems too extreme but userspace holding off irqs
> for that long time is bad. BTW are these memory hoggers, creating anon
> memory or file memory? Is [z]swap enabled?
The memory hoggers were anon, without any form of swap.
I think the other questions were answered in other replies, but feel free to
re-ask and I'll provide details.
> For the long term, I think we can use make this work without disabling
> irqs, similar to how networking manages sock lock.
>
> > v6.14-rc6 with CONFIG_IRQSOFF_TRACER with stat_reader and hogs, finds
> > interrupts are disabled by rstat for 45341 usec:
> > # => started at: _raw_spin_lock_irq
> > # => ended at: cgroup_rstat_flush
> > #
> > #
> > # _------=> CPU#
> > # / _-----=> irqs-off/BH-disabled
> > # | / _----=> need-resched
> > # || / _---=> hardirq/softirq
> > # ||| / _--=> preempt-depth
> > # |||| / _-=> migrate-disable
> > # ||||| / delay
> > # cmd pid |||||| time | caller
> > # \ / |||||| \ | /
> > stat_rea-96532 52d.... 0us*: _raw_spin_lock_irq
> > stat_rea-96532 52d.... 45342us : cgroup_rstat_flush
> > stat_rea-96532 52d.... 45342us : tracer_hardirqs_on <-cgroup_rstat_flush
> > stat_rea-96532 52d.... 45343us : <stack trace>
> > => memcg1_stat_format
> > => memory_stat_format
> > => memory_stat_show
> > => seq_read_iter
> > => vfs_read
> > => ksys_read
> > => do_syscall_64
> > => entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe
> >
> > With this patch the CONFIG_IRQSOFF_TRACER doesn't find rstat to be the
> > longest holder. The longest irqs-off holder has irqs disabled for
> > 4142 usec, a huge reduction from previous 45341 usec rstat finding.
> >
> > Running stat_reader memory.stat reader for 10 seconds:
> > - without memory hogs: 9.84M accesses => 12.7M accesses
> > - with memory hogs: 9.46M accesses => 11.1M accesses
> > The throughput of memory.stat access improves.
> >
> > The mode of memory.stat access latency after grouping by of 2 buckets:
> > - without memory hogs: 64 usec => 16 usec
> > - with memory hogs: 64 usec => 8 usec
> > The memory.stat latency improves.
>
> So, things are improving even without batching. I wonder if there are
> less readers then how will this look like. Can you try with single
> reader as well?
>
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>
> > Tested-by: Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>
>
> Reviewed-by: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
>
prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-20 14:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-19 7:13 Greg Thelen
2025-03-19 7:17 ` Greg Thelen
2025-03-19 10:20 ` Michal Koutný
2025-03-19 10:47 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-19 17:18 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-27 14:38 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-27 17:17 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-27 17:47 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-01 15:00 ` Michal Koutný
2025-04-01 15:46 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-01 16:59 ` Michal Koutný
2025-03-19 17:26 ` Tejun Heo
2025-03-26 23:57 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-19 17:16 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-19 18:06 ` Johannes Weiner
2025-03-19 18:35 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-19 19:10 ` Tejun Heo
2025-03-19 19:16 ` Johannes Weiner
2025-03-19 19:46 ` Johannes Weiner
2025-03-19 17:26 ` Tejun Heo
2025-03-19 17:35 ` Johannes Weiner
2025-03-19 17:53 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-03-19 18:37 ` Eric Dumazet
2025-03-20 14:43 ` Greg Thelen [this message]
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