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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>,
	Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>,
	aswin@hp.com, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"Gotou, Yasunori" <y-goto@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	chenhanxiao <chenhanxiao@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Gao feng <gaofeng@cn.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ipc,shm: increase default size for shmmax
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 16:15:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHGf_=r03QWxw3Jg7BE3z37k4omgo_HRE9qCGw80ngtUD_iEeA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140401121920.50d1dd96c2145acc81561b82@linux-foundation.org>

>> Our middleware engineers has been complaining about this sysctl limit.
>> System administrator need to calculate required sysctl value by making sum
>> of all planned middlewares, and middleware provider needs to write "please
>> calculate systcl param by....." in their installation manuals.
>
> Why aren't people just setting the sysctl to a petabyte?  What problems
> would that lead to?

I don't have much Fujitsu middleware knowledges. But I'd like to explain
very funny bug I saw.

1. middleware-A suggest to set SHMMAX to very large value (maybe
LONG_MAX, but my memory was flushed)
2. middleware-B suggest to set SHMMAX to increase some dozen mega byte.

Finally, it was overflow and didn't work at all.

Let's demonstrate.

# echo 18446744073709551615 > /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax
# cat /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax
18446744073709551615
# echo 18446744073709551616 > /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax
# cat /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax
0

That's why many open source software continue the silly game. But
again, I don't have knowledge about Fujitsu middleware. I'm waiting
kamezawa-san's answer.

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-01 20:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-31  3:06 Davidlohr Bueso
2014-03-31 21:32 ` Andrew Morton
2014-03-31 22:59   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-03-31 23:13     ` Andrew Morton
2014-03-31 23:25       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01  0:05         ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-01  6:29           ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2014-04-01 19:19             ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-01 20:15               ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2014-04-01 20:26                 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-02  0:11                 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2014-04-02  1:02               ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2014-04-02 14:55               ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-04-02 23:47                 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2014-04-01 17:01           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 18:10             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-01 18:31               ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 19:51                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-01 21:01                   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 21:12                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-01 21:29                       ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-01 21:41                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-01 21:48                           ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-01 22:02                             ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 22:08                               ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-13 18:05                                 ` Manfred Spraul
2014-04-13 23:15                                   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-16 22:46                                   ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-16 23:19                                     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-17 10:41                                     ` Michael Kerrisk
2014-04-17 16:41                                       ` Manfred Spraul
2014-04-17 20:19                                         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-01 22:49                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-01 23:28                               ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 23:56                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-02  0:40                                   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-02  1:08                                     ` Greg Thelen
2014-04-02  1:58                                       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2014-04-02  2:11                                         ` Greg Thelen
2014-04-03  0:20                                   ` [PATCH] ipc,shm: disable shmmax and shmall by default Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-03 14:07                                     ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2014-04-03 19:02                                     ` Manfred Spraul
2014-04-03 19:50                                       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-03 23:39                                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-04  5:00                                           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-05 18:24                                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-06  6:42                                               ` Manfred Spraul
2014-04-06 16:54                                                 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-03 22:29                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-03 23:47                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-11 18:28                                     ` Manfred Spraul
2014-04-11 20:27                                       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-11 20:48                                         ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-12  8:50                                         ` Manfred Spraul
2014-04-12 15:33                                           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 21:43                       ` [PATCH] ipc,shm: increase default size for shmmax Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 19:26             ` Andrew Morton

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