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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>
To: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@android.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Robert Love <rlove@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Dmitry Adamushko <dmitry.adamushko@gmail.com>,
	Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org>, Taras Glek <tglek@mozilla.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] vrange: Set affected pages referenced when marking volatile
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 17:01:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHGf_=qMSKTG0_2hAETm_KPgovObJE=kXY4RTN5wWN7SuPgVBA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1395436655-21670-5-git-send-email-john.stultz@linaro.org>

On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:17 PM, John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org> wrote:
> One issue that some potential users were concerned about, was that
> they wanted to ensure that all the pages from one volatile range
> were purged before we purge pages from a different volatile range.
> This would prevent the case where they have 4 large objects, and
> the system purges one page from each object, casuing all of the
> objects to have to be re-created.
>
> The counter-point to this case, is when an application is using the
> SIGBUS semantics to continue to access pages after they have been
> marked volatile. In that case, the desire was that the most recently
> touched pages be purged last, and only the "cold" pages be purged
> from the specified range.
>
> Instead of adding option flags for the various usage model (at least
> initially), one way of getting a solutoin for both uses would be to
> have the act of marking pages as volatile in effect mark the pages
> as accessed. Since all of the pages in the range would be marked
> together, they would be of the same "age" and would (approximately)
> be purged together. Further, if any pages in the range were accessed
> after being marked volatile, they would be moved to the end of the
> lru and be purged later.

If you run after two hares, you will catch neither. I suspect this patch
doesn't make happy any user.
I suggest to aim former case (object level caching) and aim latter by
another patch-kit.

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-24  0:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-21 21:17 [PATCH 0/5] Volatile Ranges (v12) & LSF-MM discussion fodder John Stultz
2014-03-21 21:17 ` [PATCH 1/5] vrange: Add vrange syscall and handle splitting/merging and marking vmas John Stultz
2014-03-23 12:20   ` Jan Kara
2014-03-23 20:34     ` John Stultz
2014-03-23 16:50   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-08 18:52     ` John Stultz
2014-03-21 21:17 ` [PATCH 2/5] vrange: Add purged page detection on setting memory non-volatile John Stultz
2014-03-23 12:29   ` Jan Kara
2014-03-23 20:21     ` John Stultz
2014-03-23 17:42   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-07 18:37     ` John Stultz
2014-04-07 22:14       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-08  3:09         ` John Stultz
2014-03-23 17:50   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-03-23 20:26     ` John Stultz
2014-03-23 21:50       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-09 18:29         ` John Stultz
2014-03-21 21:17 ` [PATCH 3/5] vrange: Add page purging logic & SIGBUS trap John Stultz
2014-03-23 23:44   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-10 18:49     ` John Stultz
2014-03-21 21:17 ` [PATCH 4/5] vrange: Set affected pages referenced when marking volatile John Stultz
2014-03-24  0:01   ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2014-03-21 21:17 ` [PATCH 5/5] vmscan: Age anonymous memory even when swap is off John Stultz
2014-03-24 17:33   ` Rik van Riel
2014-03-24 18:04     ` John Stultz
2014-04-01 21:21 ` [PATCH 0/5] Volatile Ranges (v12) & LSF-MM discussion fodder Johannes Weiner
2014-04-01 21:34   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-01 21:35   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-01 23:01     ` Dave Hansen
2014-04-02  4:12       ` John Stultz
2014-04-02 16:36         ` Johannes Weiner
2014-04-02 17:40           ` John Stultz
2014-04-02 17:58             ` Johannes Weiner
2014-04-02 19:01               ` John Stultz
2014-04-02 19:47                 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-04-02 20:13                   ` John Stultz
2014-04-02 22:44                     ` Jan Kara
2014-04-11 19:32                     ` John Stultz
2014-04-07  5:48             ` Minchan Kim
2014-04-08  4:32             ` Kevin Easton
2014-04-08  3:38               ` John Stultz
2014-04-07  5:24           ` Minchan Kim
2014-04-02  4:03   ` John Stultz
2014-04-02  4:07     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-02 16:30     ` Johannes Weiner
2014-04-02 16:32       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-02 16:37         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-02 17:18           ` Johannes Weiner
2014-04-02 17:40             ` Dave Hansen
2014-04-02 17:48               ` John Stultz
2014-04-02 18:07                 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-04-02 19:37                   ` John Stultz
2014-04-02 18:31     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-04-02 19:27       ` Johannes Weiner
2014-04-07  6:19         ` Minchan Kim
2014-04-02 19:51       ` John Stultz
2014-04-07  6:11       ` Minchan Kim

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