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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>
To: Ted Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Lukas Czerner <lczerner@redhat.com>,
	Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Ext4 Developers List <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH, RFC 0/3] Introduce new O_HOT and O_COLD flags
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 19:56:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHGf_=oWtpgRfqaZ1YDXgZoQHcFY0=DYVcwXYbFtZt2v+K532w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120420145856.GC24486@thunk.org>

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Ted Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 06:42:08PM +0400, James Bottomley wrote:
>>
>> I'm not at all wedded to O_HOT and O_COLD; I think if we establish a
>> hint hierarchy file->page cache->device then we should, of course,
>> choose the best API and naming scheme for file->page cache.  The only
>> real point I was making is that we should tie in the page cache, and
>> currently it only knows about "hot" and "cold" pages.
>
> The problem is that "hot" and "cold" will have different meanings from
> the perspective of the file system versus the page cache.  The file
> system may consider a file "hot" if it is accessed frequently ---
> compared to the other 2 TB of data on that HDD.  The memory subsystem
> will consider a page "hot" compared to what has been recently accessed
> in the 8GB of memory that you might have your system.  Now consider
> that you might have a dozen or so 2TB disks that each have their "hot"
> areas, and it's not at all obvious that just because a file, or even
> part of a file is marked "hot", that it deserves to be in memory at
> any particular point in time.

So, this have intentionally different meanings I have no seen a reason why
fs uses hot/cold words. It seems to bring a confusion.

But I don't know full story of this feature and I might be overlooking
something.

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-21 23:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1334863211-19504-1-git-send-email-tytso@mit.edu>
     [not found] ` <4F912880.70708@panasas.com>
     [not found]   ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1204201120060.27750@dhcp-27-109.brq.redhat.com>
2012-04-20 11:01     ` James Bottomley
2012-04-20 11:23       ` Lukas Czerner
2012-04-20 14:07         ` Christoph Lameter
2012-04-20 14:42         ` James Bottomley
2012-04-20 14:58           ` Ted Ts'o
2012-04-21 23:56             ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2012-04-22  6:30               ` Nick Piggin
2012-04-23  8:23                 ` James Bottomley
2012-04-23 11:47                   ` Nick Piggin
2012-04-24  6:18                     ` Nick Piggin
2012-04-24 15:00                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-21 18:26       ` Jeff Garzik

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