From: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
Matt Bobrowski <mattbobrowski@google.com>,
bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
KP Singh <kpsingh@google.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux-Fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LSM List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 bpf-next 0/9] add new acquire/release BPF kfuncs
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 15:50:58 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHC9VhTbjzS88uU=7Pau7tzsYD+UW5=3TGw2qkqrA5a-GVunrQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240307-phosphor-entnahmen-8ef28b782abf@brauner>
On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 4:55 AM Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> There's one fundamental question here that we'll need an official answer to:
>
> Is it ok for an out-of-tree BPF LSM program, that nobody has ever seen
> to request access to various helpers in the kernel?
Phrased in a slightly different way, and a bit more generalized: do we
treat out-of-tree BPF programs the same as we do with out-of-tree
kernel modules? I believe that's the real question, and if we answer
that, we should also have our answer for the internal helper function
question.
> Because fundamentally this is what this patchset is asking to be done.
>
> If the ZFS out-of-tree kernel module were to send us a similar patch
> series asking us for a list of 9 functions that they'd like us to export
> what would the answer to that be? It would be "no" - on principle alone.
>
> So what is different between an out-of-tree BPF LSM program that no one
> even has ever seen and an out-of-tree kernel module that one can at
> least look at in Github? Why should we reject requests from the latter
> but are supposed to accept requests from the former?
>
> If we say yes to the BPF LSM program requests we would have to say yes
> to ZFS as well.
--
paul-moore.com
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2024-03-06 11:50 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 2/9] bpf: add new acquire/release BPF kfuncs for mm_struct Christian Brauner
[not found] ` <20240306-flach-tragbar-b2b3c531bf0d@brauner>
2024-03-06 12:13 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 0/9] add new acquire/release BPF kfuncs Christian Brauner
2024-03-06 21:44 ` Paul Moore
2024-03-07 4:05 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-03-07 9:54 ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-07 20:50 ` Paul Moore [this message]
2024-03-08 3:25 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-03-08 10:58 ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-08 3:11 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-03-08 10:35 ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-09 1:23 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-03-11 12:00 ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-12 17:06 ` Matt Bobrowski
2024-03-12 20:11 ` Matt Bobrowski
2024-03-18 13:24 ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-13 21:05 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-03-18 13:14 ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-27 21:41 ` Alexei Starovoitov
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