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From: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
To: Trevor Gross <tmgross@umich.edu>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Wedson Almeida Filho" <wedsonaf@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
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	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
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	"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Al Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
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	"Todd Kjos" <tkjos@android.com>,
	"Martijn Coenen" <maco@android.com>,
	"Joel Fernandes" <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
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	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	"Christian Brauner" <brauner@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] rust: add typed accessors for userspace pointers
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2024 14:14:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAH5fLggebX-dgYXtf9mbScv02c3gpq1qCJSesZ8qpXsceBXDOg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALNs47ubBgWr25AEKtgYPyzPB1tfcyCAz8-TbYmmqMpY98Fu_A@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 6:04 AM Trevor Gross <tmgross@umich.edu> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 6:21 AM Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com> wrote:
> > +    /// Reads a value of the specified type.
> > +    ///
> > +    /// Fails with `EFAULT` if the read encounters a page fault.
> > +    pub fn read<T: ReadableFromBytes>(&mut self) -> Result<T> {
>
> I think that `T: Copy` is required here, or for Copy to be a
> supertrait of ReadableBytes, since the data in the buffer is being
> duplicated from a reference.
>
> Send is probably also a reasonable bound to have .

We're not moving a value of type `T`. We're creating a new value of
type `T` from a byte array. The trait says that we can do that, so I
think that is enough here.

Besides, we'll often want to use this for wrappers around bindgen
types. If we add a Copy bound, then we need to get bindgen to generate
a #[derive(Copy)] for them, which I don't think it does right now.

> > +        // SAFETY: The local variable `out` is valid for writing `size_of::<T>()` bytes.
> > +        let res = unsafe {
> > +            bindings::copy_from_user_unsafe_skip_check_object_size(
> > +                out.as_mut_ptr().cast::<c_void>(),
> > +                self.0,
> > +                size_of::<T>() as c_ulong,
>
> As with the other patch, I think it would be more clear to use
> `c_ulong::try_from(...)` rather than comparing against
> `MAX_USER_OP_LEN ` and later casting. Possibly just in a helper
> function.

Done.

> > +        // Since this is not a pointer to a valid object in our program,
> > +        // we cannot use `add`, which has C-style rules for defined
> > +        // behavior.
> > +        self.0 = self.0.wrapping_add(size_of::<T>());
>
> There are now methods `wrapping_byte_add` (since 1.75). Doesn't make
> much of a difference since the pointer is c_void anyway, but it does
> make the unit more clear.

Sure, I can use those methods.

> > +    /// Writes the provided Rust value to this userspace pointer.
> > +    ///
> > +    /// Fails with `EFAULT` if the write encounters a page fault.
> > +    pub fn write<T: WritableToBytes>(&mut self, value: &T) -> Result {
>
> Send + Copy are also needed here, or supertraits of WritableToBytes.

I also disagree here. We're not moving a value of type T. We're
creating a byte array from a value of type T, and the trait says that
we can do that.

> > +/// Specifies that a type is safely readable from bytes.
> > +///
> > +/// Not all types are valid for all values. For example, a `bool` must be either
> > +/// zero or one, so reading arbitrary bytes into something that contains a
> > +/// `bool` is not okay.
> > +///
> > +/// It's okay for the type to have padding, as initializing those bytes has no
> > +/// effect.
> > +///
> > +/// # Safety
> > +///
> > +/// All bit-patterns must be valid for this type.
> > +pub unsafe trait ReadableFromBytes {}
> > +
> > +// SAFETY: All bit patterns are acceptable values of the types below.
> > +unsafe impl ReadableFromBytes for u8 {}
> > +unsafe impl ReadableFromBytes for u16 {}
> > +unsafe impl ReadableFromBytes for u32 {}
> > +unsafe impl ReadableFromBytes for u64 {}
> > +unsafe impl ReadableFromBytes for usize {}
> > +unsafe impl ReadableFromBytes for i8 {}
> > +unsafe impl ReadableFromBytes for i16 {}
> > +unsafe impl ReadableFromBytes for i32 {}
> > +unsafe impl ReadableFromBytes for i64 {}
> > +unsafe impl ReadableFromBytes for isize {}
> > +// SAFETY: If all bit patterns are acceptable for individual values in an array,
> > +// then all bit patterns are also acceptable for arrays of that type.
> > +unsafe impl<T: ReadableFromBytes> ReadableFromBytes for [T] {}
> > +unsafe impl<T: ReadableFromBytes, const N: usize> ReadableFromBytes for [T; N] {}
> > +
> > +/// Specifies that a type is safely writable to bytes.
> > +///
> > +/// If a struct implements this trait, then it is okay to copy it byte-for-byte
> > +/// to userspace. This means that it should not have any padding, as padding
> > +/// bytes are uninitialized. Reading uninitialized memory is not just undefined
> > +/// behavior, it may even lead to leaking sensitive information on the stack to
> > +/// userspace.
> > +///
> > +/// The struct should also not hold kernel pointers, as kernel pointer addresses
> > +/// are also considered sensitive. However, leaking kernel pointers is not
> > +/// considered undefined behavior by Rust, so this is a correctness requirement,
> > +/// but not a safety requirement.
> > +///
> > +/// # Safety
> > +///
> > +/// Values of this type may not contain any uninitialized bytes.
> > +pub unsafe trait WritableToBytes {}
> > +
> > +// SAFETY: Instances of the following types have no uninitialized portions.
> > +unsafe impl WritableToBytes for u8 {}
> > +unsafe impl WritableToBytes for u16 {}
> > +unsafe impl WritableToBytes for u32 {}
> > +unsafe impl WritableToBytes for u64 {}
> > +unsafe impl WritableToBytes for usize {}
> > +unsafe impl WritableToBytes for i8 {}
> > +unsafe impl WritableToBytes for i16 {}
> > +unsafe impl WritableToBytes for i32 {}
> > +unsafe impl WritableToBytes for i64 {}
> > +unsafe impl WritableToBytes for isize {}
> > +unsafe impl WritableToBytes for bool {}
> > +unsafe impl WritableToBytes for char {}
> > +unsafe impl WritableToBytes for str {}
> > +// SAFETY: If individual values in an array have no uninitialized portions, then
> > +// the the array itself does not have any uninitialized portions either.
> > +unsafe impl<T: WritableToBytes> WritableToBytes for [T] {}
> > +unsafe impl<T: WritableToBytes, const N: usize> WritableToBytes for [T; N] {}
>
> These traits are probably usable in a lot of other places (e.g.
> packets, GPU), so could you put them in a separate module?

I can move them to the types module.

> The patterns here are pretty similar to what the bytemuck crate does
> [1]. Since that crate is well established and open licensed, I think
> it makes sense to keep their naming or possibly even vendor a portion
> in.

Vendoring bytemuck is out of scope for this patchset.

If we *are* going to vendor one of them, I would suggest zerocopy over bytemuck.

> In particular, this would likely include the traits:
>
> - AnyBitPattern, which is roughly ReadableFromBytes here
> - NoUninit, which is roughly WritableToBytes here
> - Optionally Pod (plain old data), a supertrait of both AnyBitPattern
> and NoUninit just used to simplify trait implementation (impl Pod and
> you get the other two).

I can rename the two traits, but I'm not going to introduce Pod. It's
over engineered for my purposes. Also, I prefer the trait names from
zerocopy. They emphasize that it's really about conversions to/from
byte arrays, and not about moving values around.

Note that WritableToBytes has an extra comment about pointer addresses
that bytemuck/zerocopy doesn't have.

> And the functions:
>
> - from_bytes to turn &[u8] into &T for use in `read`. Needs `T: Copy`
> to return an owned value, as noted above.
> - bytes_of to turn &T into &[u8], for use in `write`
>
> The derive macros would also be nice to have down the line, though
> bytemuck's unfortunately relies on syn.
>
> - Trevor
>
> [1]: https://docs.rs/bytemuck/latest/bytemuck/


  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-08 13:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-24 11:20 [PATCH 0/3] Memory management patches needed by Rust Binder Alice Ryhl
2024-01-24 11:20 ` [PATCH 1/3] rust: add userspace pointers Alice Ryhl
2024-01-24 23:12   ` Valentin Obst
2024-02-08 12:20     ` Alice Ryhl
2024-02-01  4:06   ` Trevor Gross
2024-02-08 12:53     ` Alice Ryhl
2024-02-08 15:35       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-02-08 15:41         ` Alice Ryhl
2024-02-08 15:59           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-02-10  6:20           ` Kees Cook
2024-02-10  7:06       ` Trevor Gross
2024-02-10 14:14       ` David Laight
2024-02-12  9:30         ` Alice Ryhl
2024-01-24 11:20 ` [PATCH 2/3] rust: add typed accessors for " Alice Ryhl
2024-01-24 23:46   ` Valentin Obst
2024-01-25 12:40     ` Alice Ryhl
2024-01-25 12:26   ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-01-25 12:37     ` Alice Ryhl
2024-01-25 15:59       ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-01-25 16:15         ` Alice Ryhl
2024-02-01  5:03   ` Trevor Gross
2024-02-08 13:14     ` Alice Ryhl [this message]
2024-01-24 11:20 ` [PATCH 3/3] rust: add abstraction for `struct page` Alice Ryhl
2024-01-26  0:46   ` Boqun Feng
2024-01-26 12:33     ` Alice Ryhl
2024-01-26 18:28       ` Boqun Feng
2024-02-01  6:50         ` Trevor Gross
2024-02-05 17:23           ` Boqun Feng
2024-02-08 13:36           ` Alice Ryhl
2024-01-30  9:15     ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2024-01-29 17:59   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-29 18:56     ` Carlos Llamas
2024-01-29 20:19       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-29 21:27     ` Alice Ryhl
2024-01-30  9:02     ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-01-30  9:06       ` Alice Ryhl
2024-02-01  6:02   ` Trevor Gross
2024-02-08 13:46     ` Alice Ryhl
2024-02-08 14:02       ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-02-08 14:12         ` Alice Ryhl

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