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From: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com>,
	kernel test robot <oliver.sang@intel.com>,
	 Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	oe-lkp@lists.linux.dev, lkp@intel.com,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@kernel.org>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	 Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	 Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	WANG Xuerui <kernel@xen0n.name>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  ying.huang@intel.com, feng.tang@intel.com
Subject: Re: [linus:master] [mm] c0bff412e6: stress-ng.clone.ops_per_sec -2.9% regression
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 10:18:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGudoHGVc+=w5b8wKc=tt4FTOP3wN-3Ts9DCwRg_caZ8dfUNDg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <66c4fcc5-47f6-438c-a73a-3af6e19c3200@redhat.com>

On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 10:12 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 12.08.24 06:49, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 12:43:08PM +0800, Yin Fengwei wrote:
> >> Hi David,
> >>
> >> On 8/1/24 09:44, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> >>> On 01.08.24 15:37, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 3:34 PM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 01.08.24 15:30, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 01, 2024 at 08:49:27AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> >>>>>>> Yes indeed. fork() can be extremely sensitive to each
> >>>>>>> added instruction.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I even pointed out to Peter why I didn't add the
> >>>>>>> PageHuge check in there
> >>>>>>> originally [1].
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Well, and I didn't want to have runtime-hugetlb checks in
> >>>>>>> PageAnonExclusive code called on certainly-not-hugetlb code paths."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We now have to do a page_folio(page) and then test for hugetlb.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>        return folio_test_hugetlb(page_folio(page));
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Nowadays, folio_test_hugetlb() will be faster than at
> >>>>>>> c0bff412e6 times, so
> >>>>>>> maybe at least part of the overhead is gone.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'll note page_folio expands to a call to _compound_head.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> While _compound_head is declared as an inline, it ends up being big
> >>>>>> enough that the compiler decides to emit a real function instead and
> >>>>>> real func calls are not particularly cheap.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I had a brief look with a profiler myself and for single-threaded usage
> >>>>>> the func is quite high up there, while it manages to get out with the
> >>>>>> first branch -- that is to say there is definitely performance lost for
> >>>>>> having a func call instead of an inlined branch.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The routine is deinlined because of a call to page_fixed_fake_head,
> >>>>>> which itself is annotated with always_inline.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This is of course patchable with minor shoveling.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I did not go for it because stress-ng results were too unstable for me
> >>>>>> to confidently state win/loss.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But should you want to whack the regression, this is what I would look
> >>>>>> into.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This might improve it, at least for small folios I guess:
> >> Do you want us to test this change? Or you have further optimization
> >> ongoing? Thanks.
> >
> > I verified the thing below boots, I have no idea about performance. If
> > it helps it can be massaged later from style perspective.
>
> As quite a lot of setups already run with the vmemmap optimization enabled, I
> wonder how effective this would be (might need more fine tuning, did not look
> at the generated code):
>
>
> diff --git a/include/linux/page-flags.h b/include/linux/page-flags.h
> index 085dd8dcbea2..7ddcdbd712ec 100644
> --- a/include/linux/page-flags.h
> +++ b/include/linux/page-flags.h
> @@ -233,7 +233,7 @@ static __always_inline int page_is_fake_head(const struct page *page)
>          return page_fixed_fake_head(page) != page;
>   }
>
> -static inline unsigned long _compound_head(const struct page *page)
> +static __always_inline unsigned long _compound_head(const struct page *page)
>   {
>          unsigned long head = READ_ONCE(page->compound_head);
>
>

Well one may need to justify it with bloat-o-meter which is why I did
not just straight up inline the entire thing.

But if you are down to fight opposition of the sort I agree this is
the patch to benchmark. :)
-- 
Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik gmail.com>


  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-12  8:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-30  5:00 kernel test robot
2024-07-30  8:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-01  6:39   ` Yin, Fengwei
2024-08-01  6:49     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-01  7:44       ` Yin, Fengwei
2024-08-01  7:54         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-01 13:30       ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-08-01 13:34         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-01 13:37           ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-08-01 13:44             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-12  4:43               ` Yin Fengwei
2024-08-12  4:49                 ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-08-12  8:12                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-12  8:18                     ` Mateusz Guzik [this message]
2024-08-12  8:23                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-13  7:09                   ` Yin Fengwei
2024-08-13  7:14                     ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-08-14  3:02                       ` Yin Fengwei
2024-08-14  4:10                         ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-08-14  9:45                           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-14 11:06                             ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-08-14 12:02                               ` David Hildenbrand

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