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From: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>
To: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Cc: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 16/17] mm: make vma cache SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 06:51:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGudoHE2aPNThzAK9UrZYAo8CrRTFfu_VuSeyq5r2EhB7x4w0A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJuCfpEDfjyfPjck_3VO5vV4RX0K1UYvHe_R8pSv+6iXN=3wsg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 6:47 AM Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 8:00 PM Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 4:15 AM Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 6:27 PM Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 08:26:03PM -0800, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >diff --git a/kernel/fork.c b/kernel/fork.c
> > > > >index 9d9275783cf8..151b40627c14 100644
> > > > >--- a/kernel/fork.c
> > > > >+++ b/kernel/fork.c
> > > > >@@ -449,6 +449,42 @@ struct vm_area_struct *vm_area_alloc(struct mm_struct *mm)
> > > > >       return vma;
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > >+static void vm_area_init_from(const struct vm_area_struct *src,
> > > > >+                            struct vm_area_struct *dest)
> > > > >+{
> > [snip]
> > > > Would this be difficult to maintain? We should make sure not miss or overwrite
> > > > anything.
> > >
> > > Yeah, it is less maintainable than a simple memcpy() but I did not
> > > find a better alternative. I added a warning above the struct
> > > vm_area_struct definition to update this function every time we change
> > > that structure. Not sure if there is anything else I can do to help
> > > with this.
> > >
> >
> > Bare minimum this could have a BUILD_BUG_ON in below the func for the
> > known-covered size. But it would have to be conditional on arch and
> > some macros, somewhat nasty.
> >
> > KASAN or KMSAN (I don't remember which) can be used to find missing
> > copies. To that end the target struct could be marked as fully
> > uninitialized before copy and have a full read performed from it
> > afterwards -- guaranteed to trip over any field which any field not
> > explicitly covered (including padding though). I don't know what magic
> > macros can be used to do in Linux, I am saying the support to get this
> > result is there. I understand most people don't use this, but this
> > still should be enough to trip over buggy patches in -next.
>
> If my previous suggestion does not fly I'll start digging into KASAN
> to see how we can use it. Thanks for the tip.
>
> >
> > Finally, the struct could have macros delimiting copy/non-copy
> > sections (with macros expanding to field names), for illustrative
> > purposes:
> > diff --git a/include/linux/mm_types.h b/include/linux/mm_types.h
> > index 332cee285662..25063a3970c8 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/mm_types.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/mm_types.h
> > @@ -677,6 +677,7 @@ struct vma_numab_state {
> >   * getting a stable reference.
> >   */
> >  struct vm_area_struct {
> > +#define vma_start_copy0 vm_rcu
> >         /* The first cache line has the info for VMA tree walking. */
> >
> >         union {
> > @@ -731,6 +732,7 @@ struct vm_area_struct {
> >         /* Unstable RCU readers are allowed to read this. */
> >         struct vma_lock *vm_lock;
> >  #endif
> > +#define vma_end_copy1 vm_lock
> >
> >         /*
> >          * For areas with an address space and backing store,
> >
> > then you would do everything with a series of calls
>
> I'm not sure... My proposed approach with offsetof() I think is a bit
> cleaner than adding macros to denote copy sections. WDYT?
>

another non-copy field may show up down the road and then the person
adding it is going to be a sad panda. wont happen if the "infra" is
there.

but I concede this is not a big deal and i'm not going to bikeshed about it.

-- 
Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik gmail.com>


  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-15  5:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-11  4:25 [PATCH v9 00/17] reimplement per-vma lock as a refcount Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11  4:25 ` [PATCH v9 01/17] mm: introduce vma_start_read_locked{_nested} helpers Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11  4:25 ` [PATCH v9 02/17] mm: move per-vma lock into vm_area_struct Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11  4:25 ` [PATCH v9 03/17] mm: mark vma as detached until it's added into vma tree Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11  4:25 ` [PATCH v9 04/17] mm: introduce vma_iter_store_attached() to use with attached vmas Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 11:58   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-13 16:31     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 16:44       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-13 16:47       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-13 19:09         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-14 11:38           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-11  4:25 ` [PATCH v9 05/17] mm: mark vmas detached upon exit Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 12:05   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-13 17:02     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 17:13       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-13 19:11         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 20:32           ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-13 20:42             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-14 11:36               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-11  4:25 ` [PATCH v9 06/17] types: move struct rcuwait into types.h Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 14:46   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-11  4:25 ` [PATCH v9 07/17] mm: allow vma_start_read_locked/vma_start_read_locked_nested to fail Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 15:25   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-13 17:53     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-14 11:48       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-11  4:25 ` [PATCH v9 08/17] mm: move mmap_init_lock() out of the header file Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 15:27   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-13 17:53     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11  4:25 ` [PATCH v9 09/17] mm: uninline the main body of vma_start_write() Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 15:52   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-11  4:25 ` [PATCH v9 10/17] refcount: introduce __refcount_{add|inc}_not_zero_limited Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11  6:31   ` Hillf Danton
2025-01-11  9:59     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11 10:00       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11 12:13       ` Hillf Danton
2025-01-11 17:11         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11 23:44           ` Hillf Danton
2025-01-12  0:31             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-15  9:39           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-16 10:52             ` Hillf Danton
2025-01-11 12:39   ` David Laight
2025-01-11 17:07     ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-01-11 18:30     ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-01-11 22:19       ` David Laight
2025-01-11 22:50         ` [PATCH v9 10/17] refcount: introduce __refcount_{add|inc}_not_zero_limited - clang 17.0.1 bug David Laight
2025-01-12 11:37           ` David Laight
2025-01-12 17:56             ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-01-11  4:25 ` [PATCH v9 11/17] mm: replace vm_lock and detached flag with a reference count Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11 11:24   ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-01-11 20:14     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11 20:16       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11 20:31       ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-01-11 20:58         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11 20:38       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-13  1:47       ` Wei Yang
2025-01-13  2:25         ` Wei Yang
2025-01-13 21:14           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 21:08         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-15 10:48       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-15 11:13         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-15 15:00           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-15 15:35             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-15 15:38               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-15 16:22                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-15 16:00           ` [PATCH] refcount: Strengthen inc_not_zero() Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-16 15:12             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-17 15:41             ` Will Deacon
2025-01-27 14:09               ` Will Deacon
2025-01-27 19:21                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-28 23:51                   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-06  2:52                     ` [PATCH 1/1] refcount: provide ops for cases when object's memory can be reused Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-06 10:41                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-06  3:03                     ` [PATCH] refcount: Strengthen inc_not_zero() Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-13 23:04                       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-17 16:13             ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-01-12  2:59   ` [PATCH v9 11/17] mm: replace vm_lock and detached flag with a reference count Wei Yang
2025-01-12 17:35     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13  0:59       ` Wei Yang
2025-01-13  2:37   ` Wei Yang
2025-01-13 21:16     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13  9:36   ` Wei Yang
2025-01-13 21:18     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-15  2:58   ` Wei Yang
2025-01-15  3:12     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-15 12:05       ` Wei Yang
2025-01-15 15:01         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-16  1:37           ` Wei Yang
2025-01-16  1:41             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-16  9:10               ` Wei Yang
2025-01-11  4:25 ` [PATCH v9 12/17] mm: move lesser used vma_area_struct members into the last cacheline Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 16:15   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-15 10:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-15 16:39     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-13 22:59       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11  4:26 ` [PATCH v9 13/17] mm/debug: print vm_refcnt state when dumping the vma Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 16:21   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-13 16:35     ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-01-13 17:57       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-14 11:41         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-11  4:26 ` [PATCH v9 14/17] mm: remove extra vma_numab_state_init() call Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 16:28   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-13 17:56     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-14 11:45       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-11  4:26 ` [PATCH v9 15/17] mm: prepare lock_vma_under_rcu() for vma reuse possibility Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11  4:26 ` [PATCH v9 16/17] mm: make vma cache SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-15  2:27   ` Wei Yang
2025-01-15  3:15     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-15  3:58       ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-01-15  5:41         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-15  3:59       ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-01-15  5:47         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-15  5:51           ` Mateusz Guzik [this message]
2025-01-15  6:41             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-15  7:58       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-15 15:10         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-13 22:56           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-15 12:17       ` Wei Yang
2025-01-15 21:46         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11  4:26 ` [PATCH v9 17/17] docs/mm: document latest changes to vm_lock Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 16:33   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-13 17:56     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11  4:52 ` [PATCH v9 00/17] reimplement per-vma lock as a refcount Matthew Wilcox
2025-01-11  9:45   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 12:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-13 16:58   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 17:11     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-13 19:00       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-14 11:35         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-14  1:49   ` Andrew Morton
2025-01-14  2:53     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-14  4:09       ` Andrew Morton
2025-01-14  9:09         ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-14 10:27           ` Hillf Danton
2025-01-14  9:47         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-14 14:59         ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-01-14 15:54           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-15 11:34             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-15 15:14               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-28  5:26 ` Shivank Garg
2025-01-28  5:50   ` Suren Baghdasaryan

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