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From: Vishal Annapurve <vannapurve@google.com>
To: Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v5 06/15] KVM: guest_memfd: Handle final folio_put() of guestmem pages
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2025 21:58:27 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGtprH_TL=KD2zcJFyC+=Ox_v46+bCiNmkjgncUwUOEo-LPOzw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <diqzldulovuu.fsf@ackerleytng-ctop-specialist.c.googlers.com>

On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 8:31 PM Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com> wrote:
>
> Vishal Annapurve <vannapurve@google.com> writes:
>
> > On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 1:51 AM Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 at 22:16, Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com> writes:
> >> >
> >> > Hey Fuad, I'm still working on verifying all this but for now this is
> >> > one issue. I think this can be fixed by checking if the folio->mapping
> >> > is NULL. If it's NULL, then the folio has been disassociated from the
> >> > inode, and during the dissociation (removal from filemap), the
> >> > mappability can also either
> >> >
> >> > 1. Be unset so that the default mappability can be set up based on
> >> >    GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_INIT_MAPPABLE, or
> >> > 2. Be directly restored based on GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_INIT_MAPPABLE
> >>
> >> Thanks for pointing this out. I hadn't considered this case. I'll fix
> >> in the respin.
> >>
> >
> > Can the below scenario cause trouble?
> > 1) Userspace converts a certain range of guest memfd as shared and
> > grabs some refcounts on shared memory pages through existing kernel
> > exposed mechanisms.
> > 2) Userspace converts the same range to private which would cause the
> > corresponding mappability attributes to be *MAPPABILITY_NONE.
> > 3) Userspace truncates the range which will remove the page from pagecache.
> > 4) Userspace does the fallocate again, leading to a new page getting
> > allocated without freeing the older page which is still refcounted
> > (step 1).
> >
> > Effectively this could allow userspace to keep allocating multiple
> > pages for the same guest_memfd range.
>
> I'm still verifying this but for now here's the flow Vishal described in
> greater detail:
>
> + guest_memfd starts without GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_INIT_MAPPABLE
>     + All new pages will start with mappability = GUEST
> + guest uses a page
>     + Get new page
>     + Add page to filemap
> + guest converts page to shared
>     + Mappability is now ALL
> + host uses page
> + host takes transient refcounts on page
>     + Refcount on the page is now (a) filemap's refcount (b) vma's refcount
>       (c) transient refcount
> + guest converts page to private
>     + Page is unmapped
>         + Refcount on the page is now (a) filemap's refcount (b) transient
>           refcount
>     + Since refcount is elevated, the mappabilities are left as NONE
>     + Filemap's refcounts are removed from the page
>         + Refcount on the page is now (a) transient refcount
> + host punches hole to deallocate page
>     + Since mappability was NONE, restore filemap's refcount
>         + Refcount on the page is now (a) transient refcount (b) filemap's
>           refcount
>     + Mappabilities are reset to GUEST for truncated range
>     + Folio is removed from filemap
>         + Refcount on the page is now (a) transient refcount
>     + Callback remains registered so that when the transient refcounts are
>       dropped, cleanup can happen - this is where merging will happen
>       with 1G page support
> + host fallocate()s in the same address range
>     + will get a new page
>
> Though the host does manage to get a new page while the old one stays
> around, I think this is working as intended, since the transient
> refcounts are truly holding the old folio around. When the transient
> refcounts go away, the old folio will still get cleaned up (with 1G page
> support: merged and returned) to as expected. The new page will also be
> freed at some point later.
>
> If the userspace program decides to keep taking transient refcounts to hold
> pages around, then the userspace program is truly leaking memory and it
> shouldn't be guest_memfd's bug.

I wouldn't call such references transient. But a similar scenario is
applicable for shmem files so it makes sense to call out this behavior
as WAI.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-05  5:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-17 16:29 [RFC PATCH v5 00/15] KVM: Restricted mapping of guest_memfd at the host and arm64 support Fuad Tabba
2025-01-17 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH v5 01/15] mm: Consolidate freeing of typed folios on final folio_put() Fuad Tabba
2025-01-17 22:05   ` Elliot Berman
2025-01-19 14:39     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-01-20 10:39     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-20 10:50       ` Fuad Tabba
2025-01-20 10:39   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-20 10:43     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-01-20 10:43     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-20 11:12       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-20 11:28       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-17 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH v5 02/15] KVM: guest_memfd: Make guest mem use guest mem inodes instead of anonymous inodes Fuad Tabba
2025-01-24  4:25   ` Gavin Shan
2025-01-29 10:12     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-02-11 15:58     ` Ackerley Tng
2025-01-17 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH v5 03/15] KVM: guest_memfd: Introduce kvm_gmem_get_pfn_locked(), which retains the folio lock Fuad Tabba
2025-01-17 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH v5 04/15] KVM: guest_memfd: Track mappability within a struct kvm_gmem_private Fuad Tabba
2025-01-24  5:31   ` Gavin Shan
2025-01-29 10:15     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-02-26 22:29       ` Ackerley Tng
2025-01-17 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH v5 05/15] KVM: guest_memfd: Folio mappability states and functions that manage their transition Fuad Tabba
2025-01-20 10:30   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-01-20 10:40     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-02-06  3:14       ` Ackerley Tng
2025-02-06  9:45         ` Fuad Tabba
2025-02-19 23:33   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-02-20  9:26     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-01-17 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH v5 06/15] KVM: guest_memfd: Handle final folio_put() of guestmem pages Fuad Tabba
2025-01-20 11:37   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-20 12:14     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-01-22 22:24       ` Ackerley Tng
2025-01-23 11:00         ` Fuad Tabba
2025-02-06  3:18           ` Ackerley Tng
2025-02-06  3:28           ` Ackerley Tng
2025-02-06  9:47             ` Fuad Tabba
2025-01-30 14:23         ` Fuad Tabba
2025-01-22 22:16   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-01-23  9:50     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-02-05  1:28       ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-02-05  4:31         ` Ackerley Tng
2025-02-05  5:58           ` Vishal Annapurve [this message]
2025-02-05  0:42   ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-02-05 10:06     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-02-05 17:39       ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-02-05 17:42         ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-02-07 10:46           ` Ackerley Tng
2025-02-10 16:04             ` Fuad Tabba
2025-02-05  0:51   ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-02-05 10:07     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-02-06  3:37   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-02-06  9:49     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-01-17 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH v5 07/15] KVM: guest_memfd: Allow host to mmap guest_memfd() pages when shared Fuad Tabba
2025-01-17 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH v5 08/15] KVM: guest_memfd: Add guest_memfd support to kvm_(read|/write)_guest_page() Fuad Tabba
2025-01-17 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH v5 09/15] KVM: guest_memfd: Add KVM capability to check if guest_memfd is host mappable Fuad Tabba
2025-01-17 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH v5 10/15] KVM: guest_memfd: Add a guest_memfd() flag to initialize it as mappable Fuad Tabba
2025-01-17 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH v5 11/15] KVM: guest_memfd: selftests: guest_memfd mmap() test when mapping is allowed Fuad Tabba
2025-01-17 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH v5 12/15] KVM: arm64: Skip VMA checks for slots without userspace address Fuad Tabba
2025-01-17 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH v5 13/15] KVM: arm64: Refactor user_mem_abort() calculation of force_pte Fuad Tabba
2025-01-17 16:30 ` [RFC PATCH v5 14/15] KVM: arm64: Handle guest_memfd()-backed guest page faults Fuad Tabba
2025-01-17 16:30 ` [RFC PATCH v5 15/15] KVM: arm64: Enable guest_memfd private memory when pKVM is enabled Fuad Tabba

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