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From: Vishal Annapurve <vannapurve@google.com>
To: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
Cc: Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com>,
	Chenyi Qiang <chenyi.qiang@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 39/39] KVM: guest_memfd: Dynamically split/reconstruct HugeTLB page
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 12:02:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGtprH8o=vE+_4maevXmFv4REg2+Ls-kKK8i0vjc7D6OYDCRkw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aA7UXI0NB7oQQrL2@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com>

On Sun, Apr 27, 2025 at 6:08 PM Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 03:45:20PM -0700, Ackerley Tng wrote:
> > Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com> writes:
> > ...
> > >
> > > For some memory region, e.g., "pc.ram", it's divided into 2 parts:
> > > - one with offset 0, size 0x80000000(2G),
> > >   positioned at GPA 0, which is below GPA 4G;
> > > - one with offset 0x80000000(2G), size 0x80000000(2G),
> > >   positioned at GPA 0x100000000(4G), which is above GPA 4G.
> > >
> > > For the second part, its slot->base_gfn is 0x100000000, while slot->gmem.pgoff
> > > is 0x80000000.
> > >
> >
> > Nope I don't mean to enforce that they are equal, we just need the
> > offsets within the page to be equal.
> >
> > I edited Vishal's code snippet, perhaps it would help explain better:
> >
> > page_size is the size of the hugepage, so in our example,
> >
> >   page_size = SZ_2M;
> >   page_mask = ~(page_size - 1);
> page_mask = page_size - 1  ?
>
> >   offset_within_page = slot->gmem.pgoff & page_mask;
> >   gfn_within_page = (slot->base_gfn << PAGE_SHIFT) & page_mask;
> >
> > We will enforce that
> >
> >   offset_within_page == gfn_within_page;
> For "pc.ram", if it has 2.5G below 4G, it would be configured as follows
> - slot 1: slot->gmem.pgoff=0, base GPA 0, size=2.5G
> - slot 2: slot->gmem.pgoff=2.5G, base GPA 4G, size=1.5G
>
> When binding these two slots to the same guest_memfd created with flag
> KVM_GUEST_MEMFD_HUGE_1GB:
> - binding the 1st slot will succeed;
> - binding the 2nd slot will fail.
>
> What options does userspace have in this scenario?

Userspace can create new gmem files that have aligned offsets. But I
see your point, enforcing alignment at binding time will lead to
wastage of memory. i.e. Your example above could be reworked to have:
- slot 1: slot->gmem.pgoff=0, base GPA 0, size=2.5G, gmem_fd = x, gmem_size = 3G
- slot 2: slot->gmem.pgoff=0, base GPA 4G, size=1.5G, gmem_fd = y,
gmem_size = 2G

This will waste 1G of memory as gmem files will have to be hugepage aligned.

> It can't reduce the flag to KVM_GUEST_MEMFD_HUGE_2MB. Adjusting the gmem.pgoff
> isn't ideal either.
>
> What about something similar as below?
>
> diff --git a/virt/kvm/guest_memfd.c b/virt/kvm/guest_memfd.c
> index d2feacd14786..87c33704a748 100644
> --- a/virt/kvm/guest_memfd.c
> +++ b/virt/kvm/guest_memfd.c
> @@ -1842,8 +1842,16 @@ __kvm_gmem_get_pfn(struct file *file, struct kvm_memory_slot *slot,
>         }
>
>         *pfn = folio_file_pfn(folio, index);
> -       if (max_order)
> -               *max_order = folio_order(folio);
> +       if (max_order) {
> +               int order;
> +
> +               order = folio_order(folio);
> +
> +               while (order > 0 && ((slot->base_gfn ^ slot->gmem.pgoff) & ((1 << order) - 1)))

This sounds better. Userspace will need to avoid this in general or
keep such ranges short so that most of the guest memory ranges can be
mapped at hugepage granularity. So maybe a pr_warn could be spewed
during binding that the alignment is not optimal.

> +                       order--;
> +
> +               *max_order = order;
> +       }
>
>         *is_prepared = folio_test_uptodate(folio);
>         return folio;
>
>
> > >> Adding checks at binding time will allow hugepage-unaligned offsets (to
> > >> be at parity with non-guest_memfd backing memory) but still fix this
> > >> issue.
> > >>
> > >> lpage_info will make sure that ranges near the bounds will be
> > >> fragmented, but the hugepages in the middle will still be mappable as
> > >> hugepages.
> > >>
> > >> [1] https://lpc.events/event/18/contributions/1764/attachments/1409/3706/binding-must-have-same-alignment.svg


  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-28 19:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-10 23:43 [RFC PATCH 00/39] 1G page support for guest_memfd Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 01/39] mm: hugetlb: Simplify logic in dequeue_hugetlb_folio_vma() Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 02/39] mm: hugetlb: Refactor vma_has_reserves() to should_use_hstate_resv() Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 03/39] mm: hugetlb: Remove unnecessary check for avoid_reserve Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 04/39] mm: mempolicy: Refactor out policy_node_nodemask() Ackerley Tng
2024-09-11 16:46   ` Gregory Price
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 05/39] mm: hugetlb: Refactor alloc_buddy_hugetlb_folio_with_mpol() to interpret mempolicy instead of vma Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 06/39] mm: hugetlb: Refactor dequeue_hugetlb_folio_vma() to use mpol Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 07/39] mm: hugetlb: Refactor out hugetlb_alloc_folio Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 08/39] mm: truncate: Expose preparation steps for truncate_inode_pages_final Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 09/39] mm: hugetlb: Expose hugetlb_subpool_{get,put}_pages() Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 10/39] mm: hugetlb: Add option to create new subpool without using surplus Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 11/39] mm: hugetlb: Expose hugetlb_acct_memory() Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 12/39] mm: hugetlb: Move and expose hugetlb_zero_partial_page() Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 13/39] KVM: guest_memfd: Make guest mem use guest mem inodes instead of anonymous inodes Ackerley Tng
2025-04-02  4:01   ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-23 20:22     ` Ackerley Tng
2025-04-24  3:53       ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 14/39] KVM: guest_memfd: hugetlb: initialization and cleanup Ackerley Tng
2024-09-20  9:17   ` Vishal Annapurve
2024-10-01 23:00     ` Ackerley Tng
2024-12-01 17:59   ` Peter Xu
2025-02-13  9:47     ` Ackerley Tng
2025-02-26 18:55       ` Ackerley Tng
2025-03-06 17:33   ` Peter Xu
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 15/39] KVM: guest_memfd: hugetlb: allocate and truncate from hugetlb Ackerley Tng
2024-09-13 22:26   ` Elliot Berman
2024-10-03 20:23     ` Ackerley Tng
2024-10-30  9:01   ` Jun Miao
2025-02-11  1:21     ` Ackerley Tng
2024-12-01 17:55   ` Peter Xu
2025-02-13  7:52     ` Ackerley Tng
2025-02-13 16:48       ` Peter Xu
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 16/39] KVM: guest_memfd: Add page alignment check for hugetlb guest_memfd Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 17/39] KVM: selftests: Add basic selftests for hugetlb-backed guest_memfd Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 18/39] KVM: selftests: Support various types of backing sources for private memory Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 19/39] KVM: selftests: Update test for various private memory backing source types Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 20/39] KVM: selftests: Add private_mem_conversions_test.sh Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 21/39] KVM: selftests: Test that guest_memfd usage is reported via hugetlb Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 22/39] mm: hugetlb: Expose vmemmap optimization functions Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 23/39] mm: hugetlb: Expose HugeTLB functions for promoting/demoting pages Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 24/39] mm: hugetlb: Add functions to add/move/remove from hugetlb lists Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 25/39] KVM: guest_memfd: Split HugeTLB pages for guest_memfd use Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 26/39] KVM: guest_memfd: Track faultability within a struct kvm_gmem_private Ackerley Tng
2024-10-10 16:06   ` Peter Xu
2024-10-11 23:32     ` Ackerley Tng
2024-10-15 21:34       ` Peter Xu
2024-10-15 23:42         ` Ackerley Tng
2024-10-16  8:45           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-16 20:16             ` Peter Xu
2024-10-16 22:51               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-16 23:49                 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-16 23:54                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-17 14:58                     ` Peter Xu
2024-10-17 16:47                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-17 17:05                         ` Peter Xu
2024-10-17 17:10                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-17 19:11                             ` Peter Xu
2024-10-17 19:18                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-17 19:29                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-18  7:15                                 ` Patrick Roy
2024-10-18  7:50                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-18  9:34                                     ` Patrick Roy
2024-10-17 17:11                         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-17 17:16                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-17 17:55                             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-17 18:26                             ` Vishal Annapurve
2024-10-17 14:56                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-17 15:02               ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-16  8:50           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-16 10:48             ` Vishal Annapurve
2024-10-16 11:54               ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-16 11:57                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-25 20:37   ` Peter Xu
2025-04-23 22:07     ` Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 27/39] KVM: guest_memfd: Allow mmapping guest_memfd files Ackerley Tng
2025-01-20 22:42   ` Peter Xu
2025-04-23 20:25     ` Ackerley Tng
2025-03-04 23:24   ` Peter Xu
2025-04-02  4:07   ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-23 20:28     ` Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 28/39] KVM: guest_memfd: Use vm_type to determine default faultability Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH 29/39] KVM: Handle conversions in the SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES ioctl Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH 30/39] KVM: guest_memfd: Handle folio preparation for guest_memfd mmap Ackerley Tng
2024-09-16 20:00   ` Elliot Berman
2024-10-03 21:32     ` Ackerley Tng
2024-10-03 23:43       ` Ackerley Tng
2024-10-08 19:30         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-10-07 15:56       ` Patrick Roy
2024-10-08 18:07         ` Ackerley Tng
2024-10-08 19:56           ` Sean Christopherson
2024-10-09  3:51             ` Manwaring, Derek
2024-10-09 13:52               ` Andrew Cooper
2024-10-10 16:21             ` Patrick Roy
2024-10-10 19:27               ` Manwaring, Derek
2024-10-17 23:16               ` Ackerley Tng
2024-10-18  7:10                 ` Patrick Roy
2024-09-10 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH 31/39] KVM: selftests: Allow vm_set_memory_attributes to be used without asserting return value of 0 Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH 32/39] KVM: selftests: Test using guest_memfd memory from userspace Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH 33/39] KVM: selftests: Test guest_memfd memory sharing between guest and host Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH 34/39] KVM: selftests: Add notes in private_mem_kvm_exits_test for mmap-able guest_memfd Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH 35/39] KVM: selftests: Test that pinned pages block KVM from setting memory attributes to PRIVATE Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH 36/39] KVM: selftests: Refactor vm_mem_add to be more flexible Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH 37/39] KVM: selftests: Add helper to perform madvise by memslots Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH 38/39] KVM: selftests: Update private_mem_conversions_test for mmap()able guest_memfd Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH 39/39] KVM: guest_memfd: Dynamically split/reconstruct HugeTLB page Ackerley Tng
2025-04-03 12:33   ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-23 22:02     ` Ackerley Tng
2025-04-24  1:09       ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24  4:25         ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24  5:55           ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-24  8:13             ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 14:10               ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-04-24 18:15                 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-04-25  4:02                   ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-25 22:45                     ` Ackerley Tng
2025-04-28  1:05                       ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-28 19:02                         ` Vishal Annapurve [this message]
2025-04-30 20:09                         ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-06  1:23                           ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-06 19:22                             ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-07  3:15                               ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 17:33                                 ` Ackerley Tng
2024-09-11  6:56 ` [RFC PATCH 00/39] 1G page support for guest_memfd Michal Hocko
2024-09-14  1:08 ` Du, Fan
2024-09-14 13:34   ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-01-28  9:42 ` Amit Shah
2025-02-03  8:35   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-02-06 11:07     ` Amit Shah
2025-02-07  6:25       ` Ackerley Tng

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