From: Vishal Annapurve <vannapurve@google.com>
To: Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>
Cc: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-coco@lists.linux.dev,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
thomas.lendacky@amd.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, seanjc@google.com,
vbabka@suse.cz, ashish.kalra@amd.com, liam.merwick@oracle.com,
david@redhat.com, ackerleytng@google.com, aik@amd.com,
ira.weiny@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] KVM: guest_memfd: GUP source pages prior to populating guest memory
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2025 17:44:31 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGtprH8gznGJ6VObk8aShBn_XnhwDoUzyzTkaDAe+MyiNsJ-NA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251121130144.u7eeaafonhcqf2bd@amd.com>
On Fri, Nov 21, 2025 at 5:02 AM Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Increasing GMEM_GUP_NPAGES to (1UL << PUD_ORDER) is probabaly not a good idea.
> >
> > Given both TDX/SNP map at 4KB granularity, why not just invoke post_populate()
> > per 4KB while removing the max_order from post_populate() parameters, as done
> > in Sean's sketch patch [1]?
>
> That's an option too, but SNP can make use of 2MB pages in the
> post-populate callback so I don't want to shut the door on that option
> just yet if it's not too much of a pain to work in. Given the guest BIOS
> lives primarily in 1 or 2 of these 2MB regions the benefits might be
> worthwhile, and SNP doesn't have a post-post-populate promotion path
> like TDX (at least, not one that would help much for guest boot times)
Given the small initial payload size, do you really think optimizing
for setting up huge page-aligned RMP entries is worthwhile?
The code becomes somewhat complex when trying to get this scenario
working and IIUC it depends on userspace-passed initial payload
regions aligning to the huge page size. What happens if userspace
tries to trigger snp_launch_update() for two unaligned regions within
the same huge page?
What Sean suggested earlier[1] seems relatively simpler to maintain.
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/aHEwT4X0RcfZzHlt@google.com/
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-01 1:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-13 23:07 [PATCH RFC 0/3] KVM: guest_memfd: Rework preparation/population flows in prep for in-place conversion Michael Roth
2025-11-13 23:07 ` [PATCH 1/3] KVM: guest_memfd: Remove preparation tracking Michael Roth
2025-11-17 23:58 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-11-19 0:18 ` Michael Roth
2025-11-20 9:12 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-21 12:43 ` Michael Roth
2025-11-25 3:13 ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-01 1:35 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-12-01 2:51 ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-01 19:33 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-12-02 9:16 ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-01 23:44 ` Michael Roth
2025-12-02 9:17 ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-03 13:47 ` Michael Roth
2025-12-05 3:54 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-13 23:07 ` [PATCH 2/3] KVM: TDX: Document alignment requirements for KVM_TDX_INIT_MEM_REGION Michael Roth
2025-11-13 23:07 ` [PATCH 3/3] KVM: guest_memfd: GUP source pages prior to populating guest memory Michael Roth
2025-11-20 9:11 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-21 13:01 ` Michael Roth
2025-11-24 9:31 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-24 15:53 ` Ira Weiny
2025-11-25 3:12 ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-01 1:47 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-12-01 21:03 ` Michael Roth
2025-12-01 22:13 ` Michael Roth
2025-12-03 2:46 ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-03 14:26 ` Michael Roth
2025-12-03 20:59 ` FirstName LastName
2025-12-03 23:12 ` Michael Roth
2025-12-03 21:01 ` Ira Weiny
2025-12-03 23:07 ` Michael Roth
2025-12-05 3:38 ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-01 1:44 ` Vishal Annapurve [this message]
2025-12-03 23:48 ` Michael Roth
2025-11-20 19:34 ` Ira Weiny
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