linux-mm.kvack.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>,
	Joseph Salisbury <joseph.salisbury@oracle.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>,  Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,  Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Kemeng Shi <shikemeng@huaweicloud.com>,
	 Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] mm: stress-ng --mremap triggers severe lruvec lock contention in populate/unmap paths
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2026 05:59:58 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGsJ_4ztHnGYycwRgh3FaA7gsehJUWG5YY5nMURRBS6BBdqQ3w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <639f20f3-9e65-4117-af9b-e37af0829847@kernel.org>

On Wed, Apr 8, 2026 at 4:09 PM David Hildenbrand (Arm) <david@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> >>
> >> It was also found that adding '--mremap-numa' changes the behavior
> >> substantially:
> >
> > "assign memory mapped pages to randomly selected NUMA nodes. This is
> > disabled for systems that do not support NUMA."
> >
> > so this is just sharding your lock contention across your NUMA nodes (you
> > have an lruvec per node).
> >
> >>
> >> stress-ng --mremap 8192 --mremap-bytes 4K --timeout 30 --mremap-numa
> >> --metrics-brief
> >>
> >> mremap 2570798 29.39 8.06 106.23 87466.50 22494.74
> >>
> >> So it's possible that either actual swapping, or the mbind(...,
> >> MPOL_MF_MOVE) path used by '--mremap-numa', removes most of the excessive
> >> system time.
> >>
> >> Does this look like a known MM scalability issue around short-lived
> >> MAP_POPULATE / munmap churn?
> >
> > Yes. Is this an actual issue on some workload?
>
> Same thought, it's unclear to me why we should care here. In particular,
> when talking about excessive use of zero-filled pages.

About 2–3 years ago, I had the impression that we might need
separate LRU locks for file and anon. This could reduce
contention in real-world scenarios, especially when memcg is
not enabled, but I never built a prototype for it.

Yes, this is of course not related to the problem reported in
this thread—here, the contention appears to be primarily
between anon pages themselves.

Thanks
Barry


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-04-09 22:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-07 20:09 Joseph Salisbury
2026-04-07 21:47 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-04-08  8:09   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-08 14:27     ` [External] : " Joseph Salisbury
2026-04-09 16:37       ` Haakon Bugge
2026-04-09 17:26         ` Joseph Salisbury
2026-04-10 10:43         ` [External] : " Pedro Falcato
2026-04-09 18:24     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-09 21:59     ` Barry Song [this message]
2026-04-10 10:30       ` Pedro Falcato
2026-04-07 22:44 ` John Hubbard
2026-04-08  0:35   ` Hugh Dickins
2026-04-09 18:03     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-09 18:12       ` John Hubbard
2026-04-09 18:20         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-09 18:47         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-09 18:15       ` Haakon Bugge
2026-04-09 18:43         ` Lorenzo Stoakes

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=CAGsJ_4ztHnGYycwRgh3FaA7gsehJUWG5YY5nMURRBS6BBdqQ3w@mail.gmail.com \
    --to=baohua@kernel.org \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=bhe@redhat.com \
    --cc=chrisl@kernel.org \
    --cc=david@kernel.org \
    --cc=jgg@ziepe.ca \
    --cc=jhubbard@nvidia.com \
    --cc=joseph.salisbury@oracle.com \
    --cc=kasong@tencent.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=nphamcs@gmail.com \
    --cc=peterx@redhat.com \
    --cc=pfalcato@suse.de \
    --cc=shikemeng@huaweicloud.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox