From: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
To: Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: shmem: convert to use folio_zero_range()
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:17:49 +1300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGsJ_4zgXf3GFMHBZuydATcEOFq54P8iMmzi7NL4ESE9i2L4cQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e7a1ff17-d7c8-45bf-ae2c-18ac3a37c22d@huawei.com>
On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 9:14 PM Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 2024/10/21 15:55, Barry Song wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 8:47 PM Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 7:09 PM Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 2024/10/21 13:38, Barry Song wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 6:16 PM Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2024/10/21 12:15, Barry Song wrote:
> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 8:48 PM Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 2024/10/18 15:32, Kefeng Wang wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 2024/10/18 13:23, Barry Song wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 6:20 PM Kefeng Wang
> >>>>>>>>> <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 2024/10/17 23:09, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 10:25:04PM +0800, Kefeng Wang wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Directly use folio_zero_range() to cleanup code.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Are you sure there's no performance regression introduced by this?
> >>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage() is often optimised in ways that we can't optimise for
> >>>>>>>>>>> a plain memset(). On the other hand, if the folio is large, maybe a
> >>>>>>>>>>> modern CPU will be able to do better than clear-one-page-at-a-time.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Right, I missing this, clear_page might be better than memset, I change
> >>>>>>>>>> this one when look at the shmem_writepage(), which already convert to
> >>>>>>>>>> use folio_zero_range() from clear_highpage(), also I grep
> >>>>>>>>>> folio_zero_range(), there are some other to use folio_zero_range().
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> fs/bcachefs/fs-io-buffered.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0,
> >>>>>>>>>> folio_size(folio));
> >>>>>>>>>> fs/bcachefs/fs-io-buffered.c: folio_zero_range(f,
> >>>>>>>>>> 0, folio_size(f));
> >>>>>>>>>> fs/bcachefs/fs-io-buffered.c: folio_zero_range(f,
> >>>>>>>>>> 0, folio_size(f));
> >>>>>>>>>> fs/libfs.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0, folio_size(folio));
> >>>>>>>>>> fs/ntfs3/frecord.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0,
> >>>>>>>>>> folio_size(folio));
> >>>>>>>>>> mm/page_io.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0, folio_size(folio));
> >>>>>>>>>> mm/shmem.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0, folio_size(folio));
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> IOW, what performance testing have you done with this patch?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> No performance test before, but I write a testcase,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 1) allocate N large folios (folio_alloc(PMD_ORDER))
> >>>>>>>>>> 2) then calculate the diff(us) when clear all N folios
> >>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage/folio_zero_range/folio_zero_user
> >>>>>>>>>> 3) release N folios
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> the result(run 5 times) shown below on my machine,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> N=1,
> >>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage folio_zero_range folio_zero_user
> >>>>>>>>>> 1 69 74 177
> >>>>>>>>>> 2 57 62 168
> >>>>>>>>>> 3 54 58 234
> >>>>>>>>>> 4 54 58 157
> >>>>>>>>>> 5 56 62 148
> >>>>>>>>>> avg 58 62.8 176.8
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> N=100
> >>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage folio_zero_range folio_zero_user
> >>>>>>>>>> 1 11015 11309 32833
> >>>>>>>>>> 2 10385 11110 49751
> >>>>>>>>>> 3 10369 11056 33095
> >>>>>>>>>> 4 10332 11017 33106
> >>>>>>>>>> 5 10483 11000 49032
> >>>>>>>>>> avg 10516.8 11098.4 39563.4
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> N=512
> >>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage folio_zero_range folio_zero_user
> >>>>>>>>>> 1 55560 60055 156876
> >>>>>>>>>> 2 55485 60024 157132
> >>>>>>>>>> 3 55474 60129 156658
> >>>>>>>>>> 4 55555 59867 157259
> >>>>>>>>>> 5 55528 59932 157108
> >>>>>>>>>> avg 55520.4 60001.4 157006.6
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> folio_zero_user with many cond_resched(), so time fluctuates a lot,
> >>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage is better folio_zero_range as you said.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Maybe add a new helper to convert all folio_zero_range(folio, 0,
> >>>>>>>>>> folio_size(folio))
> >>>>>>>>>> to use clear_highpage + flush_dcache_folio?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If this also improves performance for other existing callers of
> >>>>>>>>> folio_zero_range(), then that's a positive outcome.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >>>>>> hi Kefeng,
> >>>>>> what's your point? providing a helper like clear_highfolio() or similar?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, from above test, using clear_highpage/flush_dcache_folio is better
> >>>>> than using folio_zero_range() for folio zero(especially for large
> >>>>> folio), so I'd like to add a new helper, maybe name it folio_zero()
> >>>>> since it zero the whole folio.
> >>>>
> >>>> we already have a helper like folio_zero_user()?
> >>>> it is not good enough?
> >>>
> >>> Since it is with many cond_resched(), the performance is worst...
> >>
> >> Not exactly? It should have zero cost for a preemptible kernel.
> >> For a non-preemptible kernel, it helps avoid clearing the folio
> >> from occupying the CPU and starving other processes, right?
> >
> > --- a/mm/shmem.c
> > +++ b/mm/shmem.c
> >
> > @@ -2393,10 +2393,7 @@ static int shmem_get_folio_gfp(struct inode
> > *inode, pgoff_t index,
> > * it now, lest undo on failure cancel our earlier guarantee.
> > */
> >
> > if (sgp != SGP_WRITE && !folio_test_uptodate(folio)) {
> > - long i, n = folio_nr_pages(folio);
> > -
> > - for (i = 0; i < n; i++)
> > - clear_highpage(folio_page(folio, i));
> > + folio_zero_user(folio, vmf->address);
> > flush_dcache_folio(folio);
> > folio_mark_uptodate(folio);
> > }
> >
> > Do we perform better or worse with the following?
>
> Here is for SGP_FALLOC, vmf = NULL, we could use folio_zero_user(folio,
> 0), I think the performance is worse, will retest once I can access
> hardware.
Perhaps, since the current code uses clear_hugepage(). Does using
index << PAGE_SHIFT as the addr_hint offer any benefit?
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-21 9:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-17 14:25 [PATCH] mm: shmem: avoid repeated flush dcache in shmem_writepage() Kefeng Wang
2024-10-17 14:25 ` [PATCH] mm: shmem: convert to use folio_zero_range() Kefeng Wang
2024-10-17 15:09 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-10-18 5:20 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-18 5:23 ` Barry Song
2024-10-18 7:32 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-18 7:47 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 4:15 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 5:16 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 5:38 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 6:09 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 7:47 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 7:55 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 8:14 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 9:17 ` Barry Song [this message]
2024-10-21 15:33 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 20:32 ` Barry Song
2024-10-22 15:10 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-22 22:56 ` Barry Song
2024-10-24 10:10 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-25 2:59 ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-25 7:42 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-25 7:47 ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-25 10:21 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-25 12:21 ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-25 13:35 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-28 2:39 ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-28 6:37 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-28 11:41 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-30 1:26 ` Huang, Ying
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