From: Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>
To: Hongru Zhang <zhanghongru06@gmail.com>
Cc: Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
axelrasmussen@google.com, david@kernel.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
jackmanb@google.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, mhocko@suse.com,
rppt@kernel.org, surenb@google.com, vbabka@suse.cz,
weixugc@google.com, yuanchu@google.com, zhanghongru@xiaomi.com,
ziy@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] mm: optimize free_area_empty() check using per-migratetype counts
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2026 15:28:42 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGsJ_4z_2ytLf8cHZ62-k5D=mKteJBrZjjuOVSqkr9+ugK+uxw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260303082952.477277-1-zhanghongru@xiaomi.com>
On Tue, Mar 3, 2026 at 4:32 PM Hongru Zhang <zhanghongru06@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >
> > > From: Hongru Zhang <zhanghongru@xiaomi.com>
> > >
> > > Use per-migratetype counts instead of list_empty() helps reduce a
> > > few cpu instructions.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Hongru Zhang <zhanghongru@xiaomi.com>
> > > ---
> > > mm/internal.h | 2 +-
> > > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/mm/internal.h b/mm/internal.h
> > > index 1561fc2ff5b8..7759f8fdf445 100644
> > > --- a/mm/internal.h
> > > +++ b/mm/internal.h
> > > @@ -954,7 +954,7 @@ int find_suitable_fallback(struct free_area *area, unsigned int order,
> > >
> > > static inline bool free_area_empty(struct free_area *area, int migratetype)
> > > {
> > > - return list_empty(&area->free_list[migratetype]);
> > > + return !READ_ONCE(area->mt_nr_free[migratetype]);
> >
> > I'm not quite sure about this. Since the counter is written and read more
> > frequently, cache coherence traffic may actually be higher than for the list
> > head.
> >
> > I'd prefer to drop this unless there is real data showing it performs better.
>
> Under the model described in email [1], with this patch (3/3), memory allocation
> performance is 0.36% better than without it.
I'm fine with the data, though my actual suggestion was to place each
mt_free_area in a separate cacheline to avoid false sharing. That one
could be separated if you see an obvious performance improvement.
For this patchset, I feel the main issue is convincing people of the value
of increasing counters in the alloc/free hotpath. As Johannes commented [1],
the new counters should provide more use cases than pagetypeinfo, or as Zi
Yan commented [2], clearly demonstrate the value that userspace derives from
pagetypeinfo.
Right now, pagetypeinfo is considered a debug interface, so its implementation
is quite poor.
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20251128130823.GA222920@cmpxchg.org/
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/760FBDE3-2724-44A6-A874-BD87F0191C57@nvidia.com/
>
> Detailed data:
> - https://gist.github.com/zhr250/4439523b7ca3c18f4a2d2c97b24c4965
>
> Reference:
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20260303080423.472534-1-zhanghongru@xiaomi.com/
Thanks
Barry
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-02 7:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-28 3:10 [PATCH 0/3] mm: add per-migratetype counts to buddy allocator and optimize pagetypeinfo access Hongru Zhang
2025-11-28 3:11 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm/page_alloc: add per-migratetype counts to buddy allocator Hongru Zhang
2025-11-29 0:34 ` Barry Song
2025-11-28 3:12 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm/vmstat: get fragmentation statistics from per-migragetype count Hongru Zhang
2025-11-28 12:03 ` zhongjinji
2025-11-29 0:00 ` Barry Song
2025-11-29 7:55 ` Barry Song
2025-12-01 12:29 ` Hongru Zhang
2025-12-01 18:54 ` Barry Song
2025-11-28 3:12 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: optimize free_area_empty() check using per-migratetype counts Hongru Zhang
2025-11-29 0:04 ` Barry Song
2025-11-29 9:24 ` Barry Song
2026-03-03 8:04 ` Hongru Zhang
2026-03-03 8:29 ` Hongru Zhang
2026-04-02 7:28 ` Barry Song [this message]
2025-11-28 7:49 ` [PATCH 0/3] mm: add per-migratetype counts to buddy allocator and optimize pagetypeinfo access Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-28 8:34 ` Hongru Zhang
2025-11-28 8:40 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-28 9:24 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-11-28 13:08 ` Johannes Weiner
2025-12-01 2:36 ` Hongru Zhang
2025-12-01 17:01 ` Zi Yan
2025-12-02 2:42 ` Hongru Zhang
2026-04-02 7:18 ` Barry Song
2026-04-05 9:32 ` Hongru Zhang
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