From: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, axboe@kernel.dk,
bala.seshasayee@linux.intel.com, chrisl@kernel.org,
hannes@cmpxchg.org, kanchana.p.sridhar@intel.com,
kasong@tencent.com, nphamcs@gmail.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
senozhatsky@chromium.org, terrelln@fb.com,
usamaarif642@gmail.com, v-songbaohua@oppo.com,
wajdi.k.feghali@intel.com, willy@infradead.org,
ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com, yosryahmed@google.com,
baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] mm: map zero-filled pages to zero_pfn while doing swap-in
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 22:16:22 +1300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGsJ_4zYNh_prasHkPbd1We-OaQEmdT7bbxLSpECnS=nSRPQ7Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41e33113-1ac4-48fa-8eac-0f90ba5bc864@redhat.com>
On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 9:51 PM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 12.12.24 09:46, Barry Song wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 9:29 PM Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 08:37:11PM +1300, Barry Song wrote:
> >>> From: Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>
> >>>
> >>> While developing the zeromap series, Usama observed that certain
> >>> workloads may contain over 10% zero-filled pages. This may present
> >>> an opportunity to save memory by mapping zero-filled pages to zero_pfn
> >>> in do_swap_page(). If a write occurs later, do_wp_page() can
> >>> allocate a new page using the Copy-on-Write mechanism.
> >>
> >> Shouldn't this be done during, or rather instead of swap out instead?
> >> Swapping all zero pages out just to optimize the in-memory
> >> representation on seems rather backwards.
> >
> > I’m having trouble understanding your point—it seems like you might
> > not have fully read the code. :-)
> >
> > The situation is as follows: for a zero-filled page, we are currently
> > allocating a new
> > page unconditionally. By mapping this zero-filled page to zero_pfn, we could
> > save the memory used by this page.
> >
> > We don't need to allocate the memory until the page is written(which may never
> > happen).
>
> I think what Christoph means is that you would determine that at PTE
> unmap time, and directly place the zero page in there. So there would be
> no need to have the page fault at all.
>
> I suspect at PTE unmap time might be problematic, because we might still
> have other (i.e., GUP) references modifying that page, and we can only
> rely on the page content being stable after we flushed the TLB as well.
> (I recall some deferred flushing optimizations)
Yes, we need to follow a strict sequence:
1. try_to_unmap - unmap PTEs in all processes;
2. try_to_unmap_flush_dirty - flush deferred TLB shootdown;
3. pageout - zeromap will set 1 in bitmap if page is zero-filled
At the moment of pageout(), we can be confident that the page is zero-filled.
mapping to zeropage during unmap seems quite risky.
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> David / dhildenb
>
Thanks
Barry
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-12 9:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-12 7:37 Barry Song
2024-12-12 8:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 8:46 ` Barry Song
2024-12-12 8:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 8:54 ` Barry Song
2024-12-12 8:50 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-12-12 9:16 ` Barry Song [this message]
2024-12-12 16:25 ` Johannes Weiner
2024-12-13 1:47 ` Barry Song
2024-12-13 2:27 ` Barry Song
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