From: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>,
Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@gmail.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] mm: warn potential return NULL for kmalloc_array and kvmalloc_array with __GFP_NOFAIL
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2024 20:28:41 +1200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGsJ_4zQZ=K4j4RzRZXd7LENCru72+FO2BjjJw2LS87rG5KR3Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZpodRShdeVsFu_mH@tiehlicka>
On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 8:01 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri 19-07-24 19:51:06, Barry Song wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 7:42 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
> [...]
> > > It cannot reclaim itself and it cannot sleep to wait for the memory so
> > > NOFAIL semantic is simply impossible. We have put a warning in place to
> >
> > this is still "right" behaviour to retry infinitely at least according
> > to the doc of
> > __GFP_NOFAIL.
>
> I do not agree that implementing busy loop in the kernel is the right
> practice!
>
> > I assume getting new memory by many retries is still
> > possibly some other processes might be reclaiming or freeing memory
> > then providing free memory to this one being stuck.
>
> No, I strongly disagree we should even pretend this is a supported
> allocation strategy. NAK to any attempt to legalize it in some form.
fare enough.
I am not trying to legitimize it, just explaining what the documentation says.
If it is illegal, we should clearly and firmly state that it is
illegal, rather than
pretending it is legal and returning NULL. This is also wrong.
>
> --
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-19 8:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-17 23:00 Barry Song
2024-07-18 6:58 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18 7:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-18 7:12 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18 8:16 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-18 7:22 ` Barry Song
2024-07-18 7:27 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18 7:41 ` Barry Song
2024-07-18 7:53 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18 8:18 ` Barry Song
2024-07-18 8:32 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18 8:43 ` Barry Song
2024-07-18 8:50 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 0:35 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 7:02 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 7:07 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 7:42 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 7:51 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 8:01 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 8:28 ` Barry Song [this message]
2024-07-19 8:40 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 9:36 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 9:45 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 9:58 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 10:57 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 11:05 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 11:19 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 8:50 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-19 9:33 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 10:10 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-19 10:52 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 11:13 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-19 11:26 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 13:02 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 13:30 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-20 0:36 ` Barry Song
2024-07-22 7:23 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-22 7:34 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-19 7:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-19 7:43 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 7:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-20 22:14 ` Barry Song
2024-07-22 7:26 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-22 8:09 ` Barry Song
2024-07-22 9:01 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-22 23:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-22 23:22 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 8:35 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-18 7:48 ` Hailong Liu
2024-07-18 8:33 ` Barry Song
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