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From: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	 Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	 "Sridhar, Kanchana P" <kanchana.p.sridhar@intel.com>,
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	 "Accardi, Kristen C" <kristen.c.accardi@intel.com>,
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	"Gopal, Vinodh" <vinodh.gopal@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 02/12] crypto: acomp - Define new interfaces for compress/decompress batching.
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2025 20:13:13 +1300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGsJ_4zFdHUPELSYDkrN4ie2c73L6e=FEdQbDL3JckS4unKFpg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z7l0Hf-CFFjeKaZY@gondor.apana.org.au>

On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 7:52 PM Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 07:41:54PM +1300, Barry Song wrote:
> >
> > probably no, as an incompressible page might become compressible
> > after changing an algorithm. This is possible, users may swith an
> > algorithm to compress an incompressible page in the background.
>
> I don't understand the difference.  If something is wrong with
> the system causing the compression algorithm to fail, shouldn't
> zswap just hobble along as if the page was incompressible?
>
> In fact it would be quite reasonble to try to recompress it if
> the admin did change the algorithm later because the error may
> have been specific to the previous algorithm implementation.
>

Somehow, I find your comment reasonable. Another point I want
to mention is the semantic difference. For example, in a system
with only one algorithm, a dst_buf overflow still means a successful
swap-out. However, other errors actually indicate an I/O failure.
In such cases, vmscan.c will log the relevant error in pageout() to
notify the user.

Anyway, I'm not an authority on this, so I’d like to see comments
from Minchan, Sergey, and Yosry.

> Of course I totally agree that there should be a reporting
> mechanism to catch errors that admins/developers should know
> about.  But apart from reporting that error there should be
> no difference between an inherently incompressible page vs.
> buggy algorithm/broken hardware failing to compress the page.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Email: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/
> PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt
>

Thanks
Barry


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-22  7:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-21  6:31 [PATCH v5 00/12] zswap IAA compress batching Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-12-21  6:31 ` [PATCH v5 01/12] crypto: acomp - Add synchronous/asynchronous acomp request chaining Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-12-21  6:31 ` [PATCH v5 02/12] crypto: acomp - Define new interfaces for compress/decompress batching Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-12-28 11:46   ` Herbert Xu
2025-01-06 17:37     ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-01-06 23:24       ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-01-07  1:36         ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-01-07  1:46           ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-01-07  2:06             ` Herbert Xu
2025-01-07  3:10               ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-01-08  1:38                 ` Herbert Xu
2025-01-08  1:43                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-16  5:17                 ` Herbert Xu
2025-02-20 17:32                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-22  6:26                     ` Barry Song
2025-02-22  6:34                       ` Herbert Xu
2025-02-22  6:41                         ` Barry Song
2025-02-22  6:52                           ` Herbert Xu
2025-02-22  7:13                             ` Barry Song [this message]
2025-02-22  7:22                               ` Herbert Xu
2025-02-22  8:21                                 ` Barry Song
2025-02-24 21:49                               ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-27  3:05                                 ` Barry Song
2025-02-22 12:31                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-22 14:27                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-23  0:14                           ` Herbert Xu
2025-02-23  2:09                             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-23  2:52                               ` Herbert Xu
2025-02-23  3:12                                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-23  3:38                                   ` Herbert Xu
2025-02-23  4:02                                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-23  6:04                                       ` Herbert Xu
2025-02-22 16:24                         ` Barry Song
2025-02-23  0:24                         ` Herbert Xu
2025-02-23  1:57                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-01-07  2:04       ` Herbert Xu
2024-12-21  6:31 ` [PATCH v5 03/12] crypto: iaa - Add an acomp_req flag CRYPTO_ACOMP_REQ_POLL to enable async mode Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-12-21  6:31 ` [PATCH v5 04/12] crypto: iaa - Implement batch_compress(), batch_decompress() API in iaa_crypto Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-12-22  4:07   ` kernel test robot
2024-12-21  6:31 ` [PATCH v5 05/12] crypto: iaa - Make async mode the default Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-12-21  6:31 ` [PATCH v5 06/12] crypto: iaa - Disable iaa_verify_compress by default Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-12-21  6:31 ` [PATCH v5 07/12] crypto: iaa - Re-organize the iaa_crypto driver code Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-12-21  6:31 ` [PATCH v5 08/12] crypto: iaa - Map IAA devices/wqs to cores based on packages instead of NUMA Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-12-21  6:31 ` [PATCH v5 09/12] crypto: iaa - Distribute compress jobs from all cores to all IAAs on a package Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-12-21  6:31 ` [PATCH v5 10/12] mm: zswap: Allocate pool batching resources if the crypto_alg supports batching Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-01-07  0:58   ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-01-08  3:26     ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-01-08  4:16       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-12-21  6:31 ` [PATCH v5 11/12] mm: zswap: Restructure & simplify zswap_store() to make it amenable for batching Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-01-07  1:16   ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-01-08  3:57     ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-01-08  4:22       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-12-21  6:31 ` [PATCH v5 12/12] mm: zswap: Compress batching with Intel IAA in zswap_store() of large folios Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-01-07  1:19   ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-01-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v5 00/12] zswap IAA compress batching Yosry Ahmed

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