From: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
To: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>, Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>,
Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Youngjun Park <youngjun.park@lge.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Kemeng Shi <shikemeng@huaweicloud.com>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/19] mm, swap: remove workaround for unsynchronized swap map cache state
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2025 15:21:35 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGsJ_4yjU0NmQe0cM2xDkMYVdAWRc2Q1FUMGxpo8cVkEt5ifVQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMgjq7CDXh5OWy5BMXzNPCSuMQfODTdFPOhpCDGXrhisNfAGdg@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, Nov 9, 2025 at 10:18 PM Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2025 at 11:07 AM Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > struct folio *swap_cache_alloc_folio(swp_entry_t entry, gfp_t gfp_mask,
> > > struct mempolicy *mpol, pgoff_t ilx,
> > > - bool *new_page_allocated,
> > > - bool skip_if_exists)
> > > + bool *new_page_allocated)
> > > {
> > > struct swap_info_struct *si = __swap_entry_to_info(entry);
> > > struct folio *folio;
> > > @@ -548,8 +542,7 @@ struct folio *swap_cache_alloc_folio(swp_entry_t entry, gfp_t gfp_mask,
> > > if (!folio)
> > > return NULL;
> > > /* Try add the new folio, returns existing folio or NULL on failure. */
> > > - result = __swap_cache_prepare_and_add(entry, folio, gfp_mask,
> > > - false, skip_if_exists);
> > > + result = __swap_cache_prepare_and_add(entry, folio, gfp_mask, false);
> > > if (result == folio)
> > > *new_page_allocated = true;
> > > else
> > > @@ -578,7 +571,7 @@ struct folio *swapin_folio(swp_entry_t entry, struct folio *folio)
> > > unsigned long nr_pages = folio_nr_pages(folio);
> > >
> > > entry = swp_entry(swp_type(entry), round_down(offset, nr_pages));
> > > - swapcache = __swap_cache_prepare_and_add(entry, folio, 0, true, false);
> > > + swapcache = __swap_cache_prepare_and_add(entry, folio, 0, true);
> > > if (swapcache == folio)
> > > swap_read_folio(folio, NULL);
> > > return swapcache;
> >
> > I wonder if we could also drop the "charged" — it doesn’t seem
> > difficult to move the charging step before
> > __swap_cache_prepare_and_add(), even for swap_cache_alloc_folio()?
>
> Hi Barry, thanks for the review and suggestion.
>
> It may cause much more serious cgroup thrashing. Charge may cause
> reclaim, so races swapin will have a much larger race window and cause
> a lot of repeated folio alloc / charge.
>
> This param exists because anon / shmem does their own charge for large
> folio swapin, and then inserts the folio into the swap cache, which is
> causing more memory pressure already. I think ideally we want to unify
> all alloc & charging for swap in folio allocation, and have a
> swap_cache_alloc_folio that supports `orders`. For raced swapin only
> one will insert a folio successfully into the swap cache and charge
> it, which should make the race window very tiny or maybe avoid
> redundant folio allocation completely with further work. I did some
> tests and it shows that it will improve the memory usage and avoid
> some OOM under pressure for (m)THP.
This is quite interesting. I wonder if the change below could help reduce
mTHP swap thrashing. The fallback order-0 path also changes after
swap_cache_add_folio(), as order-0 pages are typically the ones triggering
memcg reclamation.
diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
index 27d91ae3648a..d97f1a8a5ca3 100644
--- a/mm/memory.c
+++ b/mm/memory.c
@@ -4470,11 +4470,13 @@ static struct folio *__alloc_swap_folio(struct
vm_fault *vmf)
return NULL;
entry = pte_to_swp_entry(vmf->orig_pte);
+#if 0
if (mem_cgroup_swapin_charge_folio(folio, vma->vm_mm,
GFP_KERNEL, entry)) {
folio_put(folio);
return NULL;
}
+#endif
return folio;
}
diff --git a/mm/swap_state.c b/mm/swap_state.c
index 2bf72d58f6ee..9d0b55deacc6 100644
--- a/mm/swap_state.c
+++ b/mm/swap_state.c
@@ -605,7 +605,7 @@ struct folio *swapin_folio(swp_entry_t entry,
struct folio *folio)
unsigned long nr_pages = folio_nr_pages(folio);
entry = swp_entry(swp_type(entry), round_down(offset, nr_pages));
- swapcache = __swap_cache_prepare_and_add(entry, folio, 0, true);
+ swapcache = __swap_cache_prepare_and_add(entry, folio, 0,
folio_order(folio));
if (swapcache == folio)
swap_read_folio(folio, NULL);
return swapcache;
>
> BTW with current SWAP_HAS_CACHE design, we also have redundant folio
> alloc for order 0 when under global pressure, as folio alloc is done
> before setting SWAP_HAS_CACHE. But having SWAP_HAS_CACHE set then do
> the folio alloc will increase the chance of hitting the idle/busy loop
> on SWAP_HAS_CACHE which is also kind of problematic. We should be able
> to clean it up in later phases.
Thanks
Barry
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-10 7:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-29 15:58 [PATCH 00/19] mm, swap: never bypass swap cache and cleanup flags (swap table phase II) Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 01/19] mm/swap: rename __read_swap_cache_async to swap_cache_alloc_folio Kairui Song
2025-10-30 22:53 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-11-03 8:28 ` Barry Song
2025-11-03 9:02 ` Kairui Song
2025-11-03 9:10 ` Barry Song
2025-11-03 16:50 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 02/19] mm, swap: split swap cache preparation loop into a standalone helper Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 03/19] mm, swap: never bypass the swap cache even for SWP_SYNCHRONOUS_IO Kairui Song
2025-11-04 3:47 ` Barry Song
2025-11-04 10:44 ` Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 04/19] mm, swap: always try to free swap cache for SWP_SYNCHRONOUS_IO devices Kairui Song
2025-11-04 4:19 ` Barry Song
2025-11-04 8:26 ` Barry Song
2025-11-04 10:55 ` Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 05/19] mm, swap: simplify the code and reduce indention Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 06/19] mm, swap: free the swap cache after folio is mapped Kairui Song
2025-11-04 9:14 ` Barry Song
2025-11-04 10:50 ` Kairui Song
2025-11-04 19:52 ` Barry Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 07/19] mm/shmem: never bypass the swap cache for SWP_SYNCHRONOUS_IO Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 08/19] mm/shmem, swap: remove SWAP_MAP_SHMEM Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 09/19] mm, swap: swap entry of a bad slot should not be considered as swapped out Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 10/19] mm, swap: consolidate cluster reclaim and check logic Kairui Song
2025-10-31 5:25 ` YoungJun Park
2025-10-31 7:11 ` Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 11/19] mm, swap: split locked entry duplicating into a standalone helper Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 12/19] mm, swap: use swap cache as the swap in synchronize layer Kairui Song
2025-10-29 19:25 ` kernel test robot
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 13/19] mm, swap: remove workaround for unsynchronized swap map cache state Kairui Song
2025-11-07 3:07 ` Barry Song
2025-11-09 14:18 ` Kairui Song
2025-11-10 7:21 ` Barry Song [this message]
2025-11-16 16:01 ` Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 14/19] mm, swap: sanitize swap entry management workflow Kairui Song
2025-10-29 19:25 ` kernel test robot
2025-10-30 5:25 ` Kairui Song
2025-10-29 19:25 ` kernel test robot
2025-11-01 4:51 ` YoungJun Park
2025-11-01 8:59 ` Kairui Song
2025-11-01 9:08 ` YoungJun Park
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 15/19] mm, swap: add folio to swap cache directly on allocation Kairui Song
2025-10-29 16:52 ` Kairui Song
2025-10-31 5:56 ` YoungJun Park
2025-10-31 7:02 ` Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 16/19] mm, swap: check swap table directly for checking cache Kairui Song
2025-11-06 21:02 ` Barry Song
2025-11-07 3:13 ` Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 17/19] mm, swap: clean up and improve swap entries freeing Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 18/19] mm, swap: drop the SWAP_HAS_CACHE flag Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 19/19] mm, swap: remove no longer needed _swap_info_get Kairui Song
2025-10-30 23:04 ` [PATCH 00/19] mm, swap: never bypass swap cache and cleanup flags (swap table phase II) Yosry Ahmed
2025-10-31 6:58 ` Kairui Song
2025-11-05 7:39 ` Chris Li
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