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From: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	 Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
Cc: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	 "Sridhar, Kanchana P" <kanchana.p.sridhar@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 02/12] crypto: acomp - Define new interfaces for compress/decompress batching.
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2025 19:26:43 +1300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGsJ_4yVFG-C=nJWp8xda3eLZENc4dpU-d4VyFswOitiXe+G_Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z7dnPh4tPxLO1UEo@google.com>

On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 6:32 AM Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 01:17:59PM +0800, Herbert Xu wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 06, 2025 at 07:10:53PM -0800, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> > >
> > > The main problem is memory usage. Zswap needs a PAGE_SIZE*2-sized
> > > buffer for each request on each CPU. We preallocate these buffers to
> > > avoid trying to allocate this much memory in the reclaim path (i.e.
> > > potentially allocating two pages to reclaim one).
> >
> > Actually this PAGE_SIZE * 2 thing baffles me.  Why would you
> > allocate more memory than the input? The comment says that it's
> > because certain hardware accelerators will disregard the output
> > buffer length, but surely that's just a bug in the driver?
> >
> > Which driver does this? We should fix it or remove it if it's
> > writing output with no regard to the maximum length.
> >
> > You should only ever need PAGE_SIZE for the output buffer, if
> > the output exceeds that then just fail the compression.
>
> I agree this should be fixed if it can be. This was discussed before
> here:
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAGsJ_4wuTZcGurby9h4PU2DwFaiEKB4bxuycaeyz3bPw3jSX3A@mail.gmail.com/
>
> Barry is the one who brought up why we need PAGE_SIZE*2. Barry, could
> you please chime in here?

I'm not sure if any real hardware driver fails to return -ERRNO, but there could
be another reason why zRAM doesn't want -ERRNO from the previous code
comment:
"When we receive -ERRNO from the compression backend, there's nothing more
we can do":

int zcomp_compress(struct zcomp_strm *zstrm,
                const void *src, unsigned int *dst_len)
{
        /*
         * Our dst memory (zstrm->buffer) is always `2 * PAGE_SIZE' sized
         * because sometimes we can endup having a bigger compressed data
         * due to various reasons: for example compression algorithms tend
         * to add some padding to the compressed buffer. Speaking of padding,
         * comp algorithm `842' pads the compressed length to multiple of 8
         * and returns -ENOSP when the dst memory is not big enough, which
         * is not something that ZRAM wants to see. We can handle the
         * `compressed_size > PAGE_SIZE' case easily in ZRAM, but when we
         * receive -ERRNO from the compressing backend we can't help it
         * anymore. To make `842' happy we need to tell the exact size of
         * the dst buffer, zram_drv will take care of the fact that
         * compressed buffer is too big.
         */
        *dst_len = PAGE_SIZE * 2;

        return crypto_comp_compress(zstrm->tfm,
                        src, PAGE_SIZE,
                        zstrm->buffer, dst_len);
}

After reviewing the zRAM code, I don't see why zram_write_page() needs
to rely on
comp_len to call write_incompressible_page().

zram_write_page()
{
        ret = zcomp_compress(zram->comps[ZRAM_PRIMARY_COMP], zstrm,
                             mem, &comp_len);
        kunmap_local(mem);

        if (unlikely(ret)) {
                zcomp_stream_put(zstrm);
                pr_err("Compression failed! err=%d\n", ret);
                return ret;
        }

        if (comp_len >= huge_class_size) {
                zcomp_stream_put(zstrm);
                return write_incompressible_page(zram, page, index);
        }
}

I mean, why can't we make it as the below:

zram_write_page()
{
        ret = zcomp_compress(zram->comps[ZRAM_PRIMARY_COMP], zstrm,
                             mem, &comp_len);
        kunmap_local(mem);

        if (unlikely(ret && ret != -ENOSP)) {
                zcomp_stream_put(zstrm);
                pr_err("Compression failed! err=%d\n", ret);
                return ret;
        }

        if (comp_len >= huge_class_size || ret) {
                zcomp_stream_put(zstrm);
                return write_incompressible_page(zram, page, index);
        }
}

As long as crypto drivers consistently return -ENOSP or a specific error
code for dst_buf overflow, we should be able to eliminate the
2*PAGE_SIZE buffer.

My point is:
1. All drivers must be capable of handling dst_buf overflow.
2. All drivers must return a consistent and dedicated error code for
dst_buf overflow.

+Minchan, Sergey,
Do you think we can implement this change in zRAM by using PAGE_SIZE instead
of 2 * PAGE_SIZE?

>
> >
> > Cheers,
> > --
> > Email: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
> > Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/
> > PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt
> >

Thanks
Barry


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-22  6:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-21  6:31 [PATCH v5 00/12] zswap IAA compress batching Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-12-21  6:31 ` [PATCH v5 01/12] crypto: acomp - Add synchronous/asynchronous acomp request chaining Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-12-21  6:31 ` [PATCH v5 02/12] crypto: acomp - Define new interfaces for compress/decompress batching Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-12-28 11:46   ` Herbert Xu
2025-01-06 17:37     ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-01-06 23:24       ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-01-07  1:36         ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-01-07  1:46           ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-01-07  2:06             ` Herbert Xu
2025-01-07  3:10               ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-01-08  1:38                 ` Herbert Xu
2025-01-08  1:43                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-16  5:17                 ` Herbert Xu
2025-02-20 17:32                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-22  6:26                     ` Barry Song [this message]
2025-02-22  6:34                       ` Herbert Xu
2025-02-22  6:41                         ` Barry Song
2025-02-22  6:52                           ` Herbert Xu
2025-02-22  7:13                             ` Barry Song
2025-02-22  7:22                               ` Herbert Xu
2025-02-22  8:21                                 ` Barry Song
2025-02-24 21:49                               ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-27  3:05                                 ` Barry Song
2025-02-22 12:31                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-22 14:27                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-23  0:14                           ` Herbert Xu
2025-02-23  2:09                             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-23  2:52                               ` Herbert Xu
2025-02-23  3:12                                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-23  3:38                                   ` Herbert Xu
2025-02-23  4:02                                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-23  6:04                                       ` Herbert Xu
2025-02-22 16:24                         ` Barry Song
2025-02-23  0:24                         ` Herbert Xu
2025-02-23  1:57                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-01-07  2:04       ` Herbert Xu
2024-12-21  6:31 ` [PATCH v5 03/12] crypto: iaa - Add an acomp_req flag CRYPTO_ACOMP_REQ_POLL to enable async mode Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-12-21  6:31 ` [PATCH v5 04/12] crypto: iaa - Implement batch_compress(), batch_decompress() API in iaa_crypto Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-12-22  4:07   ` kernel test robot
2024-12-21  6:31 ` [PATCH v5 05/12] crypto: iaa - Make async mode the default Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-12-21  6:31 ` [PATCH v5 06/12] crypto: iaa - Disable iaa_verify_compress by default Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-12-21  6:31 ` [PATCH v5 07/12] crypto: iaa - Re-organize the iaa_crypto driver code Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-12-21  6:31 ` [PATCH v5 08/12] crypto: iaa - Map IAA devices/wqs to cores based on packages instead of NUMA Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-12-21  6:31 ` [PATCH v5 09/12] crypto: iaa - Distribute compress jobs from all cores to all IAAs on a package Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-12-21  6:31 ` [PATCH v5 10/12] mm: zswap: Allocate pool batching resources if the crypto_alg supports batching Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-01-07  0:58   ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-01-08  3:26     ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-01-08  4:16       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-12-21  6:31 ` [PATCH v5 11/12] mm: zswap: Restructure & simplify zswap_store() to make it amenable for batching Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-01-07  1:16   ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-01-08  3:57     ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-01-08  4:22       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-12-21  6:31 ` [PATCH v5 12/12] mm: zswap: Compress batching with Intel IAA in zswap_store() of large folios Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-01-07  1:19   ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-01-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v5 00/12] zswap IAA compress batching Yosry Ahmed

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