From: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 07/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: exploit locality in rmap
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2022 10:45:51 +1200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGsJ_4yLCsJJvK5QkFOk_7UW72DRO7gWnd6wdn2TWzBrTmRjSg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wirMfOpzNavjWao5GA65ve=9LQN-6=YCUtJGRpu=ujdoA@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 3:52 AM Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2022 at 5:43 PM Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Given we used to have a flush for clear pte young in LRU, right now we are
> > moving to nop in almost all cases for the flush unless the address becomes
> > young exactly after look_around and before ptep_clear_flush_young_notify.
> > It means we are actually dropping flush. So the question is, were we
> > overcautious? we actually don't need the flush at all even without mglru?
>
> We stopped flushing the TLB on A bit clears on x86 back in 2014.
>
> See commit b13b1d2d8692 ("x86/mm: In the PTE swapout page reclaim case
> clear the accessed bit instead of flushing the TLB").
This is true for x86, RISC-V, powerpc and S390. but it is not true for
most platforms.
There was an attempt to do the same thing in arm64:
https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org/msg1793830.html
but arm64 still sent a nosync tlbi and depent on a deferred to dsb :
https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org/msg1794484.html
Plus, generic code will also send a tlb flush:
int ptep_clear_flush_young(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
unsigned long address, pte_t *ptep)
{
int young;
young = ptep_test_and_clear_young(vma, address, ptep);
if (young)
flush_tlb_page(vma, address);
return young;
}
We used to use ptep_test_and_clear_young() only in rmap.c for page_referenced()
in 2.6.0:
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mpe/linux-fullhistory.git/tree/mm/rmap.c?h=v2.6.0
int page_referenced(struct page * page)
{
...
if (ptep_test_and_clear_young(p))
...
}
but in 2.6.12, it has been already ptep_clear_flush_young() in
page_referenced_one()
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mpe/linux-fullhistory.git/tree/mm/rmap.c?h=v2.6.12
I failed to find the history to figure out the motivation for 2.6.12
to use ptep_clear_flush_young()
in LRU, but I am still curious how using flush or not will affect LRU
on those platforms whose
ptep_clear_flush_young() and ptep_test_and_clear_young() are different.
>
> Linus
Thanks
Barry
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-06-08 22:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-05-18 1:46 [PATCH v11 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework Yu Zhao
2022-05-18 1:46 ` [PATCH v11 01/14] mm: x86, arm64: add arch_has_hw_pte_young() Yu Zhao
2022-05-18 1:46 ` [PATCH v11 02/14] mm: x86: add CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_NONLEAF_PMD_YOUNG Yu Zhao
2022-05-18 1:46 ` [PATCH v11 03/14] mm/vmscan.c: refactor shrink_node() Yu Zhao
2022-05-18 1:46 ` [PATCH v11 04/14] Revert "include/linux/mm_inline.h: fold __update_lru_size() into its sole caller" Yu Zhao
2022-05-18 1:46 ` [PATCH v11 05/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: groundwork Yu Zhao
2022-06-09 5:33 ` zhong jiang
2022-05-18 1:46 ` [PATCH v11 06/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: minimal implementation Yu Zhao
2022-06-09 12:34 ` zhong jiang
2022-06-09 14:46 ` zhong jiang
2022-05-18 1:46 ` [PATCH v11 07/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: exploit locality in rmap Yu Zhao
2022-06-06 9:25 ` Barry Song
2022-06-07 7:37 ` Barry Song
2022-06-07 10:21 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-06 22:37 ` Barry Song
2022-06-07 10:43 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-07 21:06 ` Yu Zhao
2022-06-08 0:43 ` Barry Song
2022-06-08 15:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-08 22:45 ` Barry Song [this message]
2022-06-16 21:55 ` Yu Zhao
2022-06-16 22:33 ` Barry Song
2022-06-16 23:29 ` Yu Zhao
2022-06-17 1:42 ` Yu Zhao
2022-06-17 2:01 ` Barry Song
2022-06-17 3:03 ` Yu Zhao
2022-06-17 3:17 ` Yu Zhao
2022-06-19 20:36 ` Yu Zhao
2022-06-19 21:56 ` Barry Song
2022-06-07 19:07 ` Yu Zhao
2022-06-08 7:48 ` Barry Song
2022-06-07 18:58 ` Yu Zhao
2022-05-18 1:46 ` [PATCH v11 08/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: support page table walks Yu Zhao
2022-05-18 1:46 ` [PATCH v11 09/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: optimize multiple memcgs Yu Zhao
2022-05-18 1:46 ` [PATCH v11 10/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: kill switch Yu Zhao
2022-05-18 1:46 ` [PATCH v11 11/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: thrashing prevention Yu Zhao
2022-05-18 1:46 ` [PATCH v11 12/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: debugfs interface Yu Zhao
2022-05-18 1:46 ` [PATCH v11 13/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: admin guide Yu Zhao
2022-05-18 1:46 ` [PATCH v11 14/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: design doc Yu Zhao
2022-05-18 2:05 ` [PATCH v11 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework Jens Axboe
2022-06-07 22:47 ` Yu Zhao
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