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From: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
To: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
Cc: Lance Yang <ioworker0@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	 Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>, Gao Xiang <xiang@kernel.org>,
	Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,  Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	 Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
	Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 6/6] mm: madvise: Avoid split during MADV_PAGEOUT and MADV_COLD
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 19:37:11 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGsJ_4yFzCW1s=UGu2yT7Zh75_9awo9+Rwxeu3JHkAm=nEoRRQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f83d30ff-fe31-48c3-9c59-514f39c702f4@arm.com>

On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 7:08 PM Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com> wrote:
>
> On 13/03/2024 10:37, Barry Song wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 10:36 PM Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 13/03/2024 09:16, Barry Song wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 10:03 PM Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 13/03/2024 07:19, Barry Song wrote:
> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 4:01 AM Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Rework madvise_cold_or_pageout_pte_range() to avoid splitting any large
> >>>>>> folio that is fully and contiguously mapped in the pageout/cold vm
> >>>>>> range. This change means that large folios will be maintained all the
> >>>>>> way to swap storage. This both improves performance during swap-out, by
> >>>>>> eliding the cost of splitting the folio, and sets us up nicely for
> >>>>>> maintaining the large folio when it is swapped back in (to be covered in
> >>>>>> a separate series).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Folios that are not fully mapped in the target range are still split,
> >>>>>> but note that behavior is changed so that if the split fails for any
> >>>>>> reason (folio locked, shared, etc) we now leave it as is and move to the
> >>>>>> next pte in the range and continue work on the proceeding folios.
> >>>>>> Previously any failure of this sort would cause the entire operation to
> >>>>>> give up and no folios mapped at higher addresses were paged out or made
> >>>>>> cold. Given large folios are becoming more common, this old behavior
> >>>>>> would have likely lead to wasted opportunities.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> While we are at it, change the code that clears young from the ptes to
> >>>>>> use ptep_test_and_clear_young(), which is more efficent than
> >>>>>> get_and_clear/modify/set, especially for contpte mappings on arm64,
> >>>>>> where the old approach would require unfolding/refolding and the new
> >>>>>> approach can be done in place.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Signed-off-by: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This looks so much better than our initial RFC.
> >>>>> Thank you for your excellent work!
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks - its a team effort - I had your PoC and David's previous batching work
> >>>> to use as a template.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>  mm/madvise.c | 89 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------------------
> >>>>>>  1 file changed, 51 insertions(+), 38 deletions(-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> diff --git a/mm/madvise.c b/mm/madvise.c
> >>>>>> index 547dcd1f7a39..56c7ba7bd558 100644
> >>>>>> --- a/mm/madvise.c
> >>>>>> +++ b/mm/madvise.c
> >>>>>> @@ -336,6 +336,7 @@ static int madvise_cold_or_pageout_pte_range(pmd_t *pmd,
> >>>>>>         LIST_HEAD(folio_list);
> >>>>>>         bool pageout_anon_only_filter;
> >>>>>>         unsigned int batch_count = 0;
> >>>>>> +       int nr;
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>         if (fatal_signal_pending(current))
> >>>>>>                 return -EINTR;
> >>>>>> @@ -423,7 +424,8 @@ static int madvise_cold_or_pageout_pte_range(pmd_t *pmd,
> >>>>>>                 return 0;
> >>>>>>         flush_tlb_batched_pending(mm);
> >>>>>>         arch_enter_lazy_mmu_mode();
> >>>>>> -       for (; addr < end; pte++, addr += PAGE_SIZE) {
> >>>>>> +       for (; addr < end; pte += nr, addr += nr * PAGE_SIZE) {
> >>>>>> +               nr = 1;
> >>>>>>                 ptent = ptep_get(pte);
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>                 if (++batch_count == SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX) {
> >>>>>> @@ -447,55 +449,66 @@ static int madvise_cold_or_pageout_pte_range(pmd_t *pmd,
> >>>>>>                         continue;
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>                 /*
> >>>>>> -                * Creating a THP page is expensive so split it only if we
> >>>>>> -                * are sure it's worth. Split it if we are only owner.
> >>>>>> +                * If we encounter a large folio, only split it if it is not
> >>>>>> +                * fully mapped within the range we are operating on. Otherwise
> >>>>>> +                * leave it as is so that it can be swapped out whole. If we
> >>>>>> +                * fail to split a folio, leave it in place and advance to the
> >>>>>> +                * next pte in the range.
> >>>>>>                  */
> >>>>>>                 if (folio_test_large(folio)) {
> >>>>>> -                       int err;
> >>>>>> -
> >>>>>> -                       if (folio_estimated_sharers(folio) > 1)
> >>>>>> -                               break;
> >>>>>> -                       if (pageout_anon_only_filter && !folio_test_anon(folio))
> >>>>>> -                               break;
> >>>>>> -                       if (!folio_trylock(folio))
> >>>>>> -                               break;
> >>>>>> -                       folio_get(folio);
> >>>>>> -                       arch_leave_lazy_mmu_mode();
> >>>>>> -                       pte_unmap_unlock(start_pte, ptl);
> >>>>>> -                       start_pte = NULL;
> >>>>>> -                       err = split_folio(folio);
> >>>>>> -                       folio_unlock(folio);
> >>>>>> -                       folio_put(folio);
> >>>>>> -                       if (err)
> >>>>>> -                               break;
> >>>>>> -                       start_pte = pte =
> >>>>>> -                               pte_offset_map_lock(mm, pmd, addr, &ptl);
> >>>>>> -                       if (!start_pte)
> >>>>>> -                               break;
> >>>>>> -                       arch_enter_lazy_mmu_mode();
> >>>>>> -                       pte--;
> >>>>>> -                       addr -= PAGE_SIZE;
> >>>>>> -                       continue;
> >>>>>> +                       const fpb_t fpb_flags = FPB_IGNORE_DIRTY |
> >>>>>> +                                               FPB_IGNORE_SOFT_DIRTY;
> >>>>>> +                       int max_nr = (end - addr) / PAGE_SIZE;
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +                       nr = folio_pte_batch(folio, addr, pte, ptent, max_nr,
> >>>>>> +                                            fpb_flags, NULL);
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I wonder if we have a quick way to avoid folio_pte_batch() if users
> >>>>> are doing madvise() on a portion of a large folio.
> >>>>
> >>>> Good idea. Something like this?:
> >>>>
> >>>>         if (pte_pfn(pte) == folio_pfn(folio)
> >>>
> >>> what about
> >>>
> >>> "If (pte_pfn(pte) == folio_pfn(folio) && max_nr >= nr_pages)"
> >>>
> >>>  just to account for cases where the user's end address falls within
> >>> the middle of a large folio?
> >>
> >> yes, even better. I'll add this for the next version.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> BTW, another minor issue is here:
> >>>
> >>>                 if (++batch_count == SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX) {
> >>>                         batch_count = 0;
> >>>                         if (need_resched()) {
> >>>                                 arch_leave_lazy_mmu_mode();
> >>>                                 pte_unmap_unlock(start_pte, ptl);
> >>>                                 cond_resched();
> >>>                                 goto restart;
> >>>                         }
> >>>                 }
> >>>
> >>> We are increasing 1 for nr ptes, thus, we are holding PTL longer
> >>> than small folios case? we used to increase 1 for each PTE.
> >>> Does it matter?
> >>
> >> I thought about that, but the vast majority of the work is per-folio, not
> >> per-pte. So I concluded it would be best to continue to increment per-folio.
> >
> > Okay. The original patch commit b2f557a21bc8 ("mm/madvise: add
> > cond_resched() in madvise_cold_or_pageout_pte_range()")
> > primarily addressed the real-time wake-up latency issue. MADV_PAGEOUT
> > and MADV_COLD are much less critical compared
> > to other scenarios where operations like do_anon_page or do_swap_page
> > necessarily need PTL to progress. Therefore, adopting
> > an approach that relatively aggressively releases the PTL seems to
> > neither harm MADV_PAGEOUT/COLD nor disadvantage
> > others.
> >
> > We are slightly increasing the duration of holding the PTL due to the
> > iteration of folio_pte_batch() potentially taking longer than
> > the case of small folios, which do not require it.
>
> If we can't scan all the PTEs in a page table without dropping the PTL
> intermittently we have bigger problems. This all works perfectly fine in all the
> other PTE iterators; see zap_pte_range() for example.

I've no doubt about folio_pte_batch(). was just talking about the
original rt issue
it might affect.

>
> > However, compared
> > to operations like folio_isolate_lru() and folio_deactivate(),
> > this increase seems negligible. Recently, we have actually removed
> > ptep_test_and_clear_young() for MADV_PAGEOUT,
> > which should also benefit real-time scenarios. Nonetheless, there is a
> > small risk with large folios, such as 1 MiB mTHP, where
> > we may need to loop 256 times in folio_pte_batch().
>
> As I understand it, RT and THP are mutually exclusive. RT can't handle the extra
> latencies THPs can cause in allocation path, etc. So I don't think you will see
> a problem here.

I was actually taking a different approach on the phones as obviously
we have some
UX(user-experience)/UI/audio related tasks which cannot tolerate
allocation latency. with
a TAO-similar optimization(we did it by ext_migratetype for some pageblocks), we
actually don't push buddy to do compaction or reclamation for forming
64KiB folio.
We immediately fallback to small folios if a zero-latency 64KiB
allocation can't be
obtained from some kinds of pools - ext_migratetype pageblocks.

>
> >
> > I would vote for increasing 'nr' or maybe max(log2(nr), 1) rather than
> > 1 for two reasons:
> >
> > 1. We are not making MADV_PAGEOUT/COLD worse; in fact, we are
> > improving them by reducing the time taken to put the same
> > number of pages into the reclaim list.
> >
> > 2. MADV_PAGEOUT/COLD scenarios are not urgent compared to others that
> > genuinely require the PTL to progress. Moreover,
> > the majority of time spent on PAGEOUT is actually reclaim_pages().
>
> I understand your logic. But I'd rather optimize for fewer lock acquisitions for
> the !RT+THP case, since RT+THP is not supported.

Fair enough. I agree we can postpone this until RT and THP become an
available option.
For now, keeping this patch simpler seems to be better.

>
> >
> >>>
> >>>>                 nr = folio_pte_batch(folio, addr, pte, ptent, max_nr,
> >>>>                                      fpb_flags, NULL);
> >>>>
> >>>> If we are not mapping the first page of the folio, then it can't be a full
> >>>> mapping, so no need to call folio_pte_batch(). Just split it.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +                       if (nr < folio_nr_pages(folio)) {
> >>>>>> +                               int err;
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +                               if (folio_estimated_sharers(folio) > 1)
> >>>>>> +                                       continue;
> >>>>>> +                               if (pageout_anon_only_filter && !folio_test_anon(folio))
> >>>>>> +                                       continue;
> >>>>>> +                               if (!folio_trylock(folio))
> >>>>>> +                                       continue;
> >>>>>> +                               folio_get(folio);
> >>>>>> +                               arch_leave_lazy_mmu_mode();
> >>>>>> +                               pte_unmap_unlock(start_pte, ptl);
> >>>>>> +                               start_pte = NULL;
> >>>>>> +                               err = split_folio(folio);
> >>>>>> +                               folio_unlock(folio);
> >>>>>> +                               folio_put(folio);
> >>>>>> +                               if (err)
> >>>>>> +                                       continue;
> >>>>>> +                               start_pte = pte =
> >>>>>> +                                       pte_offset_map_lock(mm, pmd, addr, &ptl);
> >>>>>> +                               if (!start_pte)
> >>>>>> +                                       break;
> >>>>>> +                               arch_enter_lazy_mmu_mode();
> >>>>>> +                               nr = 0;
> >>>>>> +                               continue;
> >>>>>> +                       }
> >>>>>>                 }
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>                 /*
> >>>>>>                  * Do not interfere with other mappings of this folio and
> >>>>>> -                * non-LRU folio.
> >>>>>> +                * non-LRU folio. If we have a large folio at this point, we
> >>>>>> +                * know it is fully mapped so if its mapcount is the same as its
> >>>>>> +                * number of pages, it must be exclusive.
> >>>>>>                  */
> >>>>>> -               if (!folio_test_lru(folio) || folio_mapcount(folio) != 1)
> >>>>>> +               if (!folio_test_lru(folio) ||
> >>>>>> +                   folio_mapcount(folio) != folio_nr_pages(folio))
> >>>>>>                         continue;
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This looks so perfect and is exactly what I wanted to achieve.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>                 if (pageout_anon_only_filter && !folio_test_anon(folio))
> >>>>>>                         continue;
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -               VM_BUG_ON_FOLIO(folio_test_large(folio), folio);
> >>>>>> -
> >>>>>> -               if (!pageout && pte_young(ptent)) {
> >>>>>> -                       ptent = ptep_get_and_clear_full(mm, addr, pte,
> >>>>>> -                                                       tlb->fullmm);
> >>>>>> -                       ptent = pte_mkold(ptent);
> >>>>>> -                       set_pte_at(mm, addr, pte, ptent);
> >>>>>> -                       tlb_remove_tlb_entry(tlb, pte, addr);
> >>>>>> +               if (!pageout) {
> >>>>>> +                       for (; nr != 0; nr--, pte++, addr += PAGE_SIZE) {
> >>>>>> +                               if (ptep_test_and_clear_young(vma, addr, pte))
> >>>>>> +                                       tlb_remove_tlb_entry(tlb, pte, addr);
> >>>>>> +                       }
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This looks so smart. if it is not pageout, we have increased pte
> >>>>> and addr here; so nr is 0 and we don't need to increase again in
> >>>>> for (; addr < end; pte += nr, addr += nr * PAGE_SIZE)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> otherwise, nr won't be 0. so we will increase addr and
> >>>>> pte by nr.
> >>>>
> >>>> Indeed. I'm hoping that Lance is able to follow a similar pattern for
> >>>> madvise_free_pte_range().
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>                 }
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>                 /*
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> 2.25.1
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Overall, LGTM,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Reviewed-by: Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks!
> >>>>
> >
> > Thanks
> > Barry
>


  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-13 11:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-11 15:00 [PATCH v4 0/6] Swap-out mTHP without splitting Ryan Roberts
2024-03-11 15:00 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] mm: swap: Remove CLUSTER_FLAG_HUGE from swap_cluster_info:flags Ryan Roberts
2024-03-11 15:00 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] mm: swap: free_swap_and_cache_nr() as batched free_swap_and_cache() Ryan Roberts
2024-03-20 11:10   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-20 14:13     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-20 14:21       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-11 15:00 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] mm: swap: Simplify struct percpu_cluster Ryan Roberts
2024-03-12  7:52   ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-12  8:51     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-13  1:34       ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-11 15:00 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] mm: swap: Allow storage of all mTHP orders Ryan Roberts
2024-03-12  7:51   ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-12  9:40     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-13  1:33       ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-20 12:22     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-21  4:39       ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-21 12:21         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-22  2:38           ` Can you help us on memory barrier usage? (was Re: [PATCH v4 4/6] mm: swap: Allow storage of all mTHP orders) Huang, Ying
2024-03-22  9:23             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-25  3:20               ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-22 13:19             ` Chris Li
2024-03-23  2:11             ` Akira Yokosawa
2024-03-25  0:01               ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-25  3:16                 ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-26 17:08                   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-25  3:00               ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-22  2:39           ` [PATCH v4 4/6] mm: swap: Allow storage of all mTHP orders Huang, Ying
2024-03-22  9:39             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-11 15:00 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] mm: vmscan: Avoid split during shrink_folio_list() Ryan Roberts
2024-03-11 22:30   ` Barry Song
2024-03-12  8:12     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-12  8:40       ` Barry Song
2024-03-15 10:43   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-15 10:49     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-15 11:12       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-15 11:38         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-18  2:16           ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-18 10:00             ` Yin, Fengwei
2024-03-18 10:05               ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-18 15:35                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-18 15:36                   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-19  2:20                   ` Yin Fengwei
2024-03-19 14:40                     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-19  2:31                 ` Yin Fengwei
2024-03-11 15:00 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] mm: madvise: Avoid split during MADV_PAGEOUT and MADV_COLD Ryan Roberts
2024-03-13  7:19   ` Barry Song
2024-03-13  9:03     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-13  9:16       ` Barry Song
2024-03-13  9:36         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-13 10:37           ` Barry Song
2024-03-13 11:08             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-13 11:37               ` Barry Song [this message]
2024-03-13 12:02                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-13  9:19       ` Lance Yang
2024-03-13 14:02       ` Lance Yang
2024-03-20 13:49         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-20 14:35           ` Lance Yang
2024-03-20 17:38             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-21  1:38               ` Lance Yang
2024-03-21 13:38                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-21 14:55                   ` Lance Yang
2024-03-21 15:24                     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-22  0:56                       ` Lance Yang
     [not found]   ` <ffeee7da-e625-40dc-8da8-b70e4e6ef935@redhat.com>
2024-03-15 10:55     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-15 11:13       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-20 13:57     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-20 14:09       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-12  8:01 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] Swap-out mTHP without splitting Huang, Ying
2024-03-12  8:49   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-12 13:56     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-13  1:15       ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-13  8:50         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-12  8:45 ` Ryan Roberts

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