From: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
To: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>, Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>,
Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Youngjun Park <youngjun.park@lge.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Kemeng Shi <shikemeng@huaweicloud.com>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/19] mm, swap: never bypass the swap cache even for SWP_SYNCHRONOUS_IO
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2025 11:47:35 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGsJ_4xsUwUH_VyeYaXHURqTS66Fbuxa00GTM5izwK-=Vg_20g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251029-swap-table-p2-v1-3-3d43f3b6ec32@tencent.com>
On Wed, Oct 29, 2025 at 11:59 PM Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
>
> Now the overhead of the swap cache is trivial, bypassing the swap
> cache is no longer a valid optimization. So unify the swapin path using
> the swap cache. This changes the swap in behavior in multiple ways:
>
> We used to rely on `SWP_SYNCHRONOUS_IO && __swap_count(entry) == 1` as
> the indicator to bypass both the swap cache and readahead. The swap
> count check is not a good indicator for readahead. It existed because
> the previously swap design made readahead strictly coupled with swap
> cache bypassing. We actually want to always bypass readahead for
> SWP_SYNCHRONOUS_IO devices even if swap count > 1, But bypassing the
> swap cache will cause redundant IO.
I suppose it’s not only redundant I/O, but also causes additional memory
copies, as each swap-in allocates a new folio. Using swapcache allows the
folio to be shared instead?
>
> Now that limitation is gone, with the new introduced helpers and design,
> we will always swap cache, so this check can be simplified to check
> SWP_SYNCHRONOUS_IO only, effectively disabling readahead for all
> SWP_SYNCHRONOUS_IO cases, this is a huge win for many workloads.
>
> The second thing here is that this enabled a large swap for all swap
> entries on SWP_SYNCHRONOUS_IO devices. Previously, the large swap in is
> also coupled with swap cache bypassing, and so the count checking side
> effect also makes large swap in less effective. Now this is also fixed.
> We will always have a large swap in support for all SWP_SYNCHRONOUS_IO
> cases.
>
In your cover letter, you mentioned: “it’s especially better for workloads
with swap count > 1 on SYNC_IO devices, about ~20% gain in the above test.”
Is this improvement mainly from mTHP swap-in?
> And to catch potential issues with large swap in, especially with page
> exclusiveness and swap cache, more debug sanity checks and comments are
> added. But overall, the code is simpler. And new helper and routines
> will be used by other components in later commits too. And now it's
> possible to rely on the swap cache layer for resolving synchronization
> issues, which will also be done by a later commit.
>
> Worth mentioning that for a large folio workload, this may cause more
> serious thrashing. This isn't a problem with this commit, but a generic
> large folio issue. For a 4K workload, this commit increases the
> performance.
>
> Signed-off-by: Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
> ---
> mm/memory.c | 136 +++++++++++++++++++++-----------------------------------
> mm/swap.h | 6 +++
> mm/swap_state.c | 27 +++++++++++
> 3 files changed, 84 insertions(+), 85 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
> index 4c3a7e09a159..9a43d4811781 100644
> --- a/mm/memory.c
> +++ b/mm/memory.c
> @@ -4613,7 +4613,15 @@ static struct folio *alloc_swap_folio(struct vm_fault *vmf)
> }
> #endif /* CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE */
>
> -static DECLARE_WAIT_QUEUE_HEAD(swapcache_wq);
> +/* Sanity check that a folio is fully exclusive */
> +static void check_swap_exclusive(struct folio *folio, swp_entry_t entry,
> + unsigned int nr_pages)
> +{
> + do {
> + VM_WARN_ON_ONCE_FOLIO(__swap_count(entry) != 1, folio);
> + entry.val++;
> + } while (--nr_pages);
> +}
>
> /*
> * We enter with non-exclusive mmap_lock (to exclude vma changes,
> @@ -4626,17 +4634,14 @@ static DECLARE_WAIT_QUEUE_HEAD(swapcache_wq);
> vm_fault_t do_swap_page(struct vm_fault *vmf)
> {
> struct vm_area_struct *vma = vmf->vma;
> - struct folio *swapcache, *folio = NULL;
> - DECLARE_WAITQUEUE(wait, current);
> + struct folio *swapcache = NULL, *folio;
> struct page *page;
> struct swap_info_struct *si = NULL;
> rmap_t rmap_flags = RMAP_NONE;
> - bool need_clear_cache = false;
> bool exclusive = false;
> swp_entry_t entry;
> pte_t pte;
> vm_fault_t ret = 0;
> - void *shadow = NULL;
> int nr_pages;
> unsigned long page_idx;
> unsigned long address;
> @@ -4707,57 +4712,21 @@ vm_fault_t do_swap_page(struct vm_fault *vmf)
> folio = swap_cache_get_folio(entry);
> if (folio)
> swap_update_readahead(folio, vma, vmf->address);
> - swapcache = folio;
> -
I wonder if we should move swap_update_readahead() elsewhere. Since for
sync IO you’ve completely dropped readahead, why do we still need to call
update_readahead()?
Thanks
Barry
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-04 3:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-29 15:58 [PATCH 00/19] mm, swap: never bypass swap cache and cleanup flags (swap table phase II) Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 01/19] mm/swap: rename __read_swap_cache_async to swap_cache_alloc_folio Kairui Song
2025-10-30 22:53 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-11-03 8:28 ` Barry Song
2025-11-03 9:02 ` Kairui Song
2025-11-03 9:10 ` Barry Song
2025-11-03 16:50 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 02/19] mm, swap: split swap cache preparation loop into a standalone helper Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 03/19] mm, swap: never bypass the swap cache even for SWP_SYNCHRONOUS_IO Kairui Song
2025-11-04 3:47 ` Barry Song [this message]
2025-11-04 10:44 ` Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 04/19] mm, swap: always try to free swap cache for SWP_SYNCHRONOUS_IO devices Kairui Song
2025-11-04 4:19 ` Barry Song
2025-11-04 8:26 ` Barry Song
2025-11-04 10:55 ` Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 05/19] mm, swap: simplify the code and reduce indention Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 06/19] mm, swap: free the swap cache after folio is mapped Kairui Song
2025-11-04 9:14 ` Barry Song
2025-11-04 10:50 ` Kairui Song
2025-11-04 19:52 ` Barry Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 07/19] mm/shmem: never bypass the swap cache for SWP_SYNCHRONOUS_IO Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 08/19] mm/shmem, swap: remove SWAP_MAP_SHMEM Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 09/19] mm, swap: swap entry of a bad slot should not be considered as swapped out Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 10/19] mm, swap: consolidate cluster reclaim and check logic Kairui Song
2025-10-31 5:25 ` YoungJun Park
2025-10-31 7:11 ` Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 11/19] mm, swap: split locked entry duplicating into a standalone helper Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 12/19] mm, swap: use swap cache as the swap in synchronize layer Kairui Song
2025-10-29 19:25 ` kernel test robot
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 13/19] mm, swap: remove workaround for unsynchronized swap map cache state Kairui Song
2025-11-07 3:07 ` Barry Song
2025-11-09 14:18 ` Kairui Song
2025-11-10 7:21 ` Barry Song
2025-11-16 16:01 ` Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 14/19] mm, swap: sanitize swap entry management workflow Kairui Song
2025-10-29 19:25 ` kernel test robot
2025-10-30 5:25 ` Kairui Song
2025-10-29 19:25 ` kernel test robot
2025-11-01 4:51 ` YoungJun Park
2025-11-01 8:59 ` Kairui Song
2025-11-01 9:08 ` YoungJun Park
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 15/19] mm, swap: add folio to swap cache directly on allocation Kairui Song
2025-10-29 16:52 ` Kairui Song
2025-10-31 5:56 ` YoungJun Park
2025-10-31 7:02 ` Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 16/19] mm, swap: check swap table directly for checking cache Kairui Song
2025-11-06 21:02 ` Barry Song
2025-11-07 3:13 ` Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 17/19] mm, swap: clean up and improve swap entries freeing Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 18/19] mm, swap: drop the SWAP_HAS_CACHE flag Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 19/19] mm, swap: remove no longer needed _swap_info_get Kairui Song
2025-10-30 23:04 ` [PATCH 00/19] mm, swap: never bypass swap cache and cleanup flags (swap table phase II) Yosry Ahmed
2025-10-31 6:58 ` Kairui Song
2025-11-05 7:39 ` Chris Li
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