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From: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
To: Ge Yang <yangge1116@126.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, david@redhat.com,
	baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com,  hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	liuzixing@hygon.cn
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3] mm: compaction: skip memory compaction when there are not enough migratable pages
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2025 23:05:13 +1300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGsJ_4xm3qr+kmEwxrpeE_SWVHS_78MqUkFmtgL-=x_fG6oN8g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a6cda21c-9324-4f27-9c8b-31e6b7ff3bae@126.com>

On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 10:04 PM Ge Yang <yangge1116@126.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> 在 2025/1/13 16:47, Barry Song 写道:
> > On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 12:31 AM <yangge1116@126.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> From: yangge <yangge1116@126.com>
> >>
> >> There are 4 NUMA nodes on my machine, and each NUMA node has 32GB
> >> of memory. I have configured 16GB of CMA memory on each NUMA node,
> >> and starting a 32GB virtual machine with device passthrough is
> >> extremely slow, taking almost an hour.
> >>
> >> During the start-up of the virtual machine, it will call
> >> pin_user_pages_remote(..., FOLL_LONGTERM, ...) to allocate memory.
> >> Long term GUP cannot allocate memory from CMA area, so a maximum of
> >> 16 GB of no-CMA memory on a NUMA node can be used as virtual machine
> >> memory. There is 16GB of free CMA memory on a NUMA node, which is
> >> sufficient to pass the order-0 watermark check, causing the
> >> __compaction_suitable() function to  consistently return true.
> >> However, if there aren't enough migratable pages available, performing
> >> memory compaction is also meaningless. Besides checking whether
> >> the order-0 watermark is met, __compaction_suitable() also needs
> >> to determine whether there are sufficient migratable pages available
> >> for memory compaction.
> >>
> >> For costly allocations, because __compaction_suitable() always
> >> returns true, __alloc_pages_slowpath() can't exit at the appropriate
> >> place, resulting in excessively long virtual machine startup times.
> >> Call trace:
> >> __alloc_pages_slowpath
> >>      if (compact_result == COMPACT_SKIPPED ||
> >>          compact_result == COMPACT_DEFERRED)
> >>          goto nopage; // should exit __alloc_pages_slowpath() from here
> >>
> >> When the 16G of non-CMA memory on a single node is exhausted, we will
> >> fallback to allocating memory on other nodes. In order to quickly
> >> fallback to remote nodes, we should skip memory compaction when
> >> migratable pages are insufficient. After this fix, it only takes a
> >> few tens of seconds to start a 32GB virtual machine with device
> >> passthrough functionality.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: yangge <yangge1116@126.com>
> >> ---
> >>
> >> V3:
> >> - fix build error
> >>
> >> V2:
> >> - consider unevictable folios
> >>
> >>   mm/compaction.c | 20 ++++++++++++++++++++
> >>   1 file changed, 20 insertions(+)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/mm/compaction.c b/mm/compaction.c
> >> index 07bd227..a9f1261 100644
> >> --- a/mm/compaction.c
> >> +++ b/mm/compaction.c
> >> @@ -2383,7 +2383,27 @@ static bool __compaction_suitable(struct zone *zone, int order,
> >>                                    int highest_zoneidx,
> >>                                    unsigned long wmark_target)
> >>   {
> >> +       pg_data_t __maybe_unused *pgdat = zone->zone_pgdat;
> >> +       unsigned long sum, nr_pinned;
> >>          unsigned long watermark;
> >> +
> >> +       sum = node_page_state(pgdat, NR_INACTIVE_FILE) +
> >> +               node_page_state(pgdat, NR_INACTIVE_ANON) +
> >> +               node_page_state(pgdat, NR_ACTIVE_FILE) +
> >> +               node_page_state(pgdat, NR_ACTIVE_ANON) +
> >> +               node_page_state(pgdat, NR_UNEVICTABLE);
> >> +
> >> +       nr_pinned = node_page_state(pgdat, NR_FOLL_PIN_ACQUIRED) -
> >> +               node_page_state(pgdat, NR_FOLL_PIN_RELEASED);
> >> +
> >
> > Does the sum of all LRU pages equal non-CMA memory?
> > I'm quite confused for two reasons:
> > 1. CMA pages can be LRU pages.
> > 2. Free pages might not belong to any LRUs.
> NO.
>
> If all the pages in the LRU are pinned, it seems unnecessary to perform
> memory compaction, as the migration of pinned pages is unlikely to succeed.
> Besides checking whether the order-0 watermark is met,
> __compaction_suitable() also needs to determine whether there are
> sufficient migratable pages available for memory compaction.

Ok, but I am not convinced that this is a correct patch. If all your
CMA pages are
used by userspace—in other words, they are in LRUs—the sum could become
quite large, and `nr_pinned` might include non-CMA pages. In that case,
`sum - nr_pinned` would also be quite large. The "return false" logic wouldn't
work as intended.

I suspect the issue seems to have disappeared simply because your CMA is
not being used at all.

> >
> >
> >> +       /*
> >> +        * Gup-pinned pages are non-migratable. After subtracting these pages,
> >> +        * we need to check if the remaining pages are sufficient for memory
> >> +        * compaction.
> >> +        */
> >> +       if ((sum - nr_pinned) < (1 << order))
> >> +               return false;
> >> +
> >>          /*
> >>           * Watermarks for order-0 must be met for compaction to be able to
> >>           * isolate free pages for migration targets. This means that the
> >> --
> >> 2.7.4
> >>
> >>
> >

Thanks
Barry


  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-13 10:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-08 11:30 yangge1116
2025-01-13  8:47 ` Barry Song
2025-01-13  9:02   ` Ge Yang
2025-01-13 10:05     ` Barry Song [this message]
2025-01-13 11:23       ` Ge Yang
2025-01-13 15:46 ` Johannes Weiner
2025-01-14  2:51   ` Ge Yang
2025-01-14 11:21 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-14 12:24   ` Ge Yang
2025-01-14 12:51     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-15  9:17       ` Ge Yang

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