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From: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
To: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>
Cc: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
	lenohou@gmail.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	 axelrasmussen@google.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  weixugc@google.com, wjl.linux@gmail.com,
	yuanchu@google.com,  yuzhao@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/mglru: fix cgroup OOM during MGLRU state switching
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2026 16:15:25 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGsJ_4xXup2O=u24kYmEPT_vW--5Jsr233zCXObnCQ+KQ0WHZg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMgjq7Bqb0M4bjCeaxjAgaB-Kj_kWKVjMMNdG7528w+uTwGnjg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 2, 2026 at 4:00 PM Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2026 at 3:43 PM Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2026 at 2:58 PM Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I assume latency is not a concern for a very rare
> > > MGLRU on/off case. Do you require the switch to happen
> > > with zero latency?
> > > My main concern is the correctness of the code.
> > >
> > > Now the proposed patch is:
> > >
> > > +       bool lrugen_enabled = smp_load_acquire(&lruvec->lrugen.enabled);
> > > +       bool lru_draining = smp_load_acquire(&lruvec->lrugen.draining);
> > >
> > > Then choose MGLRU or active/inactive LRU based on
> > > those values.
> > >
> > > However, nothing prevents those values from changing
> > > after they are read. Even within the shrink path,
> > > they can still change.
>
> Hi all,
>
> > If these values are changed during reclaim, the currently running
> > reclaimer will continue to operate with the old settings, while any
> > new reclaimer processes will adopt the new values. This approach
> > should prevent any immediate issues, but the primary risk of this
> > lockless method is the potential for a user to rapidly toggle the
> > MGLRU feature, particularly during an intermediate state.
> >
> > >
> > > So I think we need an rwsem or something similar here —
> > > a read lock for shrink and a write lock for on/off. The
> > > write lock should happen very rarely.
> >
> > We can introduce a lock-based mechanism in v2.
>
> I hope we don't need a lock here. Currently there is only a static
> key, this patch is already adding more branches, a lock will make
> things more complex and the shrinking path is quite performance
> sensitive.

I agree that the shrinking path is performance-sensitive. However, the
bottleneck occurs when we move folios out of the LRU, performing
reference checks by scanning PTEs with rmap, unmapping, and compressing
memory. I believe that either the branch or the readlock is too small
to noticeably affect shrink performance.

Thanks
Barry


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-02  8:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-28 16:10 Leno Hou
2026-02-28 18:58 ` Andrew Morton
2026-02-28 19:12 ` kernel test robot
2026-02-28 19:23 ` kernel test robot
2026-02-28 20:15 ` kernel test robot
2026-02-28 21:28 ` Barry Song
2026-02-28 22:41   ` Barry Song
2026-03-01  4:10     ` Barry Song
2026-03-02  5:50   ` Yafang Shao
2026-03-02  6:58     ` Barry Song
2026-03-02  7:43       ` Yafang Shao
2026-03-02  8:00         ` Kairui Song
2026-03-02  8:15           ` Barry Song [this message]
2026-03-02  8:25           ` Yafang Shao
2026-03-02  9:20             ` Barry Song
2026-03-02  9:47               ` Kairui Song
2026-03-02  8:03         ` Barry Song
2026-03-02  8:13           ` Yafang Shao
2026-03-02  8:20             ` Barry Song

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