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From: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
To: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, chrisl@kernel.org,
	 david@redhat.com, kaleshsingh@google.com, kasong@tencent.com,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ioworker0@gmail.com,
	 baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, ziy@nvidia.com,
	hanchuanhua@oppo.com,  Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/2] mm: collect the number of anon large folios
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2024 16:40:47 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGsJ_4x9MB2yrs2zbZz3TpAjAzD-jzbmHY6+nGEy-uOE4y9jFw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1222cd76-e732-4238-9413-61843249c1e8@arm.com>

On Fri, Aug 9, 2024 at 4:27 PM Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com> wrote:
>
> On 09/08/2024 09:13, Ryan Roberts wrote:
> > On 08/08/2024 02:04, Barry Song wrote:
> >> From: Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>
> >>
> >> When a new anonymous mTHP is added to the rmap, we increase the count.
> >> We reduce the count whenever an mTHP is completely unmapped.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>
> >> ---
> >>  Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst |  5 +++++
> >>  include/linux/huge_mm.h                    | 15 +++++++++++++--
> >>  mm/huge_memory.c                           |  2 ++
> >>  mm/rmap.c                                  |  3 +++
> >>  4 files changed, 23 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst
> >> index 058485daf186..715f181543f6 100644
> >> --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst
> >> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst
> >> @@ -527,6 +527,11 @@ split_deferred
> >>          it would free up some memory. Pages on split queue are going to
> >>          be split under memory pressure, if splitting is possible.
> >>
> >> +anon_num
> >> +       the number of anon huge pages we have in the whole system.
> >> +       These huge pages could be still entirely mapped and have partially
> >> +       unmapped and unused subpages.
> >
> > nit: "entirely mapped and have partially unmapped and unused subpages" ->
> > "entirely mapped or have partially unmapped/unused subpages"
> >
> >> +
> >>  As the system ages, allocating huge pages may be expensive as the
> >>  system uses memory compaction to copy data around memory to free a
> >>  huge page for use. There are some counters in ``/proc/vmstat`` to help
> >> diff --git a/include/linux/huge_mm.h b/include/linux/huge_mm.h
> >> index e25d9ebfdf89..294c348fe3cc 100644
> >> --- a/include/linux/huge_mm.h
> >> +++ b/include/linux/huge_mm.h
> >> @@ -281,6 +281,7 @@ enum mthp_stat_item {
> >>      MTHP_STAT_SPLIT,
> >>      MTHP_STAT_SPLIT_FAILED,
> >>      MTHP_STAT_SPLIT_DEFERRED,
> >> +    MTHP_STAT_NR_ANON,
> >>      __MTHP_STAT_COUNT
> >>  };
> >>
> >> @@ -291,14 +292,24 @@ struct mthp_stat {
> >>  #ifdef CONFIG_SYSFS
> >>  DECLARE_PER_CPU(struct mthp_stat, mthp_stats);
> >>
> >> -static inline void count_mthp_stat(int order, enum mthp_stat_item item)
> >> +static inline void mod_mthp_stat(int order, enum mthp_stat_item item, int delta)
> >>  {
> >>      if (order <= 0 || order > PMD_ORDER)
> >>              return;
> >>
> >> -    this_cpu_inc(mthp_stats.stats[order][item]);
> >> +    this_cpu_add(mthp_stats.stats[order][item], delta);
> >> +}
> >> +
> >> +static inline void count_mthp_stat(int order, enum mthp_stat_item item)
> >> +{
> >> +    mod_mthp_stat(order, item, 1);
> >>  }
> >> +
> >>  #else
> >> +static inline void mod_mthp_stat(int order, enum mthp_stat_item item, int delta)
> >> +{
> >> +}
> >> +
> >>  static inline void count_mthp_stat(int order, enum mthp_stat_item item)
> >>  {
> >>  }
> >> diff --git a/mm/huge_memory.c b/mm/huge_memory.c
> >> index 697fcf89f975..b6bc2a3791e3 100644
> >> --- a/mm/huge_memory.c
> >> +++ b/mm/huge_memory.c
> >> @@ -578,6 +578,7 @@ DEFINE_MTHP_STAT_ATTR(shmem_fallback_charge, MTHP_STAT_SHMEM_FALLBACK_CHARGE);
> >>  DEFINE_MTHP_STAT_ATTR(split, MTHP_STAT_SPLIT);
> >>  DEFINE_MTHP_STAT_ATTR(split_failed, MTHP_STAT_SPLIT_FAILED);
> >>  DEFINE_MTHP_STAT_ATTR(split_deferred, MTHP_STAT_SPLIT_DEFERRED);
> >> +DEFINE_MTHP_STAT_ATTR(anon_num, MTHP_STAT_NR_ANON);
>
> Why are the user-facing and internal names different? Perhaps it would be
> clearer to call this nr_anon in sysfs?
>
> >>
> >>  static struct attribute *stats_attrs[] = {
> >>      &anon_fault_alloc_attr.attr,
> >> @@ -591,6 +592,7 @@ static struct attribute *stats_attrs[] = {
> >>      &split_attr.attr,
> >>      &split_failed_attr.attr,
> >>      &split_deferred_attr.attr,
> >> +    &anon_num_attr.attr,
> >>      NULL,
> >>  };
> >>
> >> diff --git a/mm/rmap.c b/mm/rmap.c
> >> index 901950200957..2b722f26224c 100644
> >> --- a/mm/rmap.c
> >> +++ b/mm/rmap.c
> >> @@ -1467,6 +1467,7 @@ void folio_add_new_anon_rmap(struct folio *folio, struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> >>      }
> >>
> >>      __folio_mod_stat(folio, nr, nr_pmdmapped);
> >> +    mod_mthp_stat(folio_order(folio), MTHP_STAT_NR_ANON, 1);
> >>  }
> >>
> >>  static __always_inline void __folio_add_file_rmap(struct folio *folio,
> >> @@ -1582,6 +1583,8 @@ static __always_inline void __folio_remove_rmap(struct folio *folio,
> >>          list_empty(&folio->_deferred_list))
> >>              deferred_split_folio(folio);
> >>      __folio_mod_stat(folio, -nr, -nr_pmdmapped);
> >> +    if (folio_test_anon(folio) && !atomic_read(mapped))
> >
> > Agree that atomic_read() is dodgy here.
> >
> > Not sure I fully understand why David prefers to do the unaccounting at
> > free-time though? It feels unbalanced to me to increment when first mapped but
> > decrement when freed. Surely its safer to either use alloc/free or use first
> > map/last map?

As long as we can account for mTHP when clearing the Anon flag for the folio,
we should be safe. It’s challenging to add +1 when allocating a large folio
because we don’t know its intended use—it could be for file, anon, or shmem.

> >
> > If using alloc/free isn't there a THP constructor/destructor that prepares the
> > deferred list? (My memory may be failing me). Could we use that?
>
> Additionally, if we wanted to extend (eventually) to track the number of shmem
> and file mthps in additional counters, could we also account using similar folio
> free-time hooks? If not, it might be an argument to account in rmap_unmap to be
> consistent for all?

I've been struggling quite a bit with rmap. Despite trying various
approaches, I’m
still occasionally seeing a negative mTHP counter after running it some hours
on phones. It seems that rmap is really tricky to handle.  I admit that I have
failed on rmap :-)

On the other hand, for anon folios, we have cases where they are split from
order M to order N. So, we add +1 when a new anon folio is added to rmap
and subtract -1 when we either split it or free it. This approach seems clearer
to me. When we split from order M to order N, we can add 1 << (M - N) for
order N.

>
>
> >
> >> +            mod_mthp_stat(folio_order(folio), MTHP_STAT_NR_ANON, -1);
> >>
> >>      /*
> >>       * It would be tidy to reset folio_test_anon mapping when fully

Thanks
Barry


  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-09  8:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20240808010457.228753-1-21cnbao@gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <20240808010457.228753-2-21cnbao@gmail.com>
2024-08-09  8:13   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-08-09  8:27     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-08-09  8:40       ` Barry Song [this message]
2024-08-09  8:42       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-09  8:58         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-09  9:05           ` Ryan Roberts
2024-08-09  9:22             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-11  8:13               ` Barry Song
2024-08-09  8:39     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-09  9:00       ` Ryan Roberts
     [not found] ` <20240808010457.228753-3-21cnbao@gmail.com>
2024-08-09  8:23   ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] mm: collect the number of anon large folios partially unmapped Ryan Roberts
2024-08-09  8:48     ` Barry Song
     [not found] <41b49313-5804-46ba-9e1d-358b079274cd@redhat.com>
2024-08-09  7:04 ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] mm: collect the number of anon large folios Barry Song
2024-08-09  7:22   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-11  5:20     ` Barry Song
2024-08-11  6:54       ` Barry Song
2024-08-11  8:51         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-11  9:22           ` Barry Song

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