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From: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Cc: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	 David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	 Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1] tools/mm: Add thpmaps script to dump THP usage info
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 16:02:40 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGsJ_4wxP6BjaQCfHseQOfqu6HJ9hj8WKJ2gMTqB7XXbubxRzA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a0c227f4-4f2c-4025-a508-c60fe05735c2@nvidia.com>

On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 12:16 PM John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com> wrote:
>
> On 1/9/24 19:51, Barry Song wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 11:35 AM John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com> wrote:
> ...
> >> Hi Ryan,
> >>
> >> One thing that immediately came up during some recent testing of mTHP
> >> on arm64: the pid requirement is sometimes a little awkward. I'm running
> >> tests on a machine at a time for now, inside various containers and
> >> such, and it would be nice if there were an easy way to get some numbers
> >> for the mTHPs across the whole machine.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure if that changes anything about thpmaps here. Probably
> >> this is fine as-is. But I wanted to give some initial reactions from
> >> just some quick runs: the global state would be convenient.
> >
> > +1. but this seems to be impossible by scanning pagemap?
> > so may we add this statistics information in kernel just like
> > /proc/meminfo or a separate /proc/mthp_info?
> >
>
> Yes. From my perspective, it looks like the global stats are more useful
> initially, and the more detailed per-pid or per-cgroup stats are the
> next level of investigation. So feels odd to start with the more
> detailed stats.
>

probably because this can be done without the modification of the kernel.
The detailed per-pid or per-cgroup is still quite useful to my case in which
we set mTHP enabled/disabled and allowed sizes according to vma types,
eg. libc_malloc, java heaps etc.

Different vma types can have different anon_name. So I can use the detailed
info to find out if specific VMAs have gotten mTHP properly and how many
they have gotten.

> However, Ryan did clearly say, above, "In future we may wish to
> introduce stats directly into the kernel (e.g. smaps or similar)". And
> earlier he ran into some pushback on trying to set up /proc or /sys
> values because this is still such an early feature.
>
> I wonder if we could put the global stats in debugfs for now? That's
> specifically supposed to be a "we promise *not* to keep this ABI stable"
> location.

+1.

>
>
> thanks,
> --
> John Hubbard
> NVIDIA
>

Thanks
Barry


  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-10  8:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-02 15:38 Ryan Roberts
2024-01-03  6:44 ` Barry Song
2024-01-03  8:07   ` William Kucharski
2024-01-03  8:24     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-03  9:16       ` Barry Song
2024-01-03  9:35         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-03 10:09           ` William Kucharski
2024-01-03 10:20             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-04 22:48               ` John Hubbard
2024-01-05  8:35                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-05 11:30                   ` William Kucharski
2024-01-05 23:07                     ` John Hubbard
2024-01-05 23:18                   ` John Hubbard
2024-01-10  8:43                     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-05  8:40 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10  3:34 ` John Hubbard
2024-01-10  3:51   ` Barry Song
2024-01-10  4:15     ` John Hubbard
2024-01-10  8:02       ` Barry Song [this message]
2024-01-10  8:58         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10  9:09           ` Barry Song
2024-01-10  9:20             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 10:23             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 10:30               ` Barry Song
2024-01-10 10:38                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 10:42                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-10 10:55                     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 11:00                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-10 11:20                         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 11:24                           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-10 11:38                           ` Barry Song
2024-01-10 11:59                             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 12:05                               ` Barry Song
2024-01-10 12:12                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-10 15:19                                   ` Zi Yan
2024-01-10 15:27                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-10 22:14                               ` Barry Song
2024-01-11 12:25                                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-11 13:18                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-11 20:21                                     ` Barry Song
2024-01-11 20:28                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-12  6:03                                         ` Barry Song
2024-01-12 10:44                                           ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-12 10:18                                     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-17 15:49                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-11 20:45                                   ` Barry Song
2024-01-12 10:25                                     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 23:34                           ` Barry Song
2024-01-10 10:48                   ` Barry Song
2024-01-10 10:54                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-10 10:58                       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 11:02                         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-10 11:07                         ` Barry Song

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