From: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Cc: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1] tools/mm: Add thpmaps script to dump THP usage info
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 16:02:40 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGsJ_4wxP6BjaQCfHseQOfqu6HJ9hj8WKJ2gMTqB7XXbubxRzA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a0c227f4-4f2c-4025-a508-c60fe05735c2@nvidia.com>
On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 12:16 PM John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com> wrote:
>
> On 1/9/24 19:51, Barry Song wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 11:35 AM John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com> wrote:
> ...
> >> Hi Ryan,
> >>
> >> One thing that immediately came up during some recent testing of mTHP
> >> on arm64: the pid requirement is sometimes a little awkward. I'm running
> >> tests on a machine at a time for now, inside various containers and
> >> such, and it would be nice if there were an easy way to get some numbers
> >> for the mTHPs across the whole machine.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure if that changes anything about thpmaps here. Probably
> >> this is fine as-is. But I wanted to give some initial reactions from
> >> just some quick runs: the global state would be convenient.
> >
> > +1. but this seems to be impossible by scanning pagemap?
> > so may we add this statistics information in kernel just like
> > /proc/meminfo or a separate /proc/mthp_info?
> >
>
> Yes. From my perspective, it looks like the global stats are more useful
> initially, and the more detailed per-pid or per-cgroup stats are the
> next level of investigation. So feels odd to start with the more
> detailed stats.
>
probably because this can be done without the modification of the kernel.
The detailed per-pid or per-cgroup is still quite useful to my case in which
we set mTHP enabled/disabled and allowed sizes according to vma types,
eg. libc_malloc, java heaps etc.
Different vma types can have different anon_name. So I can use the detailed
info to find out if specific VMAs have gotten mTHP properly and how many
they have gotten.
> However, Ryan did clearly say, above, "In future we may wish to
> introduce stats directly into the kernel (e.g. smaps or similar)". And
> earlier he ran into some pushback on trying to set up /proc or /sys
> values because this is still such an early feature.
>
> I wonder if we could put the global stats in debugfs for now? That's
> specifically supposed to be a "we promise *not* to keep this ABI stable"
> location.
+1.
>
>
> thanks,
> --
> John Hubbard
> NVIDIA
>
Thanks
Barry
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-01-10 8:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-02 15:38 Ryan Roberts
2024-01-03 6:44 ` Barry Song
2024-01-03 8:07 ` William Kucharski
2024-01-03 8:24 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-03 9:16 ` Barry Song
2024-01-03 9:35 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-03 10:09 ` William Kucharski
2024-01-03 10:20 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-04 22:48 ` John Hubbard
2024-01-05 8:35 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-05 11:30 ` William Kucharski
2024-01-05 23:07 ` John Hubbard
2024-01-05 23:18 ` John Hubbard
2024-01-10 8:43 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-05 8:40 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 3:34 ` John Hubbard
2024-01-10 3:51 ` Barry Song
2024-01-10 4:15 ` John Hubbard
2024-01-10 8:02 ` Barry Song [this message]
2024-01-10 8:58 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 9:09 ` Barry Song
2024-01-10 9:20 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 10:23 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 10:30 ` Barry Song
2024-01-10 10:38 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 10:42 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-10 10:55 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 11:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-10 11:20 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 11:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-10 11:38 ` Barry Song
2024-01-10 11:59 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 12:05 ` Barry Song
2024-01-10 12:12 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-10 15:19 ` Zi Yan
2024-01-10 15:27 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-10 22:14 ` Barry Song
2024-01-11 12:25 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-11 13:18 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-11 20:21 ` Barry Song
2024-01-11 20:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-12 6:03 ` Barry Song
2024-01-12 10:44 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-12 10:18 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-17 15:49 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-11 20:45 ` Barry Song
2024-01-12 10:25 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 23:34 ` Barry Song
2024-01-10 10:48 ` Barry Song
2024-01-10 10:54 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-10 10:58 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 11:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-10 11:07 ` Barry Song
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