From: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>,
Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>,
Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: zswap: add VM_BUG_ON() if large folio swapin is attempted
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 09:30:31 +1200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGsJ_4w_dEyLsPhdJCtRMReXDD116p+U979Yk-8EBu=zx5FWgQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7507d075-9f4d-4a9b-836c-1fbb2fbd2257@redhat.com>
On Fri, Jun 7, 2024 at 9:17 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 06.06.24 22:31, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 1:22 PM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 06.06.24 20:48, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> >>> With ongoing work to support large folio swapin, it is important to make
> >>> sure we do not pass large folios to zswap_load() without implementing
> >>> proper support.
> >>>
> >>> For example, if a swapin fault observes that contiguous PTEs are
> >>> pointing to contiguous swap entries and tries to swap them in as a large
> >>> folio, swap_read_folio() will pass in a large folio to zswap_load(), but
> >>> zswap_load() will only effectively load the first page in the folio. If
> >>> the first page is not in zswap, the folio will be read from disk, even
> >>> though other pages may be in zswap.
> >>>
> >>> In both cases, this will lead to silent data corruption.
> >>>
> >>> Proper large folio swapin support needs to go into zswap before zswap
> >>> can be enabled in a system that supports large folio swapin.
> >>>
> >>> Looking at callers of swap_read_folio(), it seems like they are either
> >>> allocated from __read_swap_cache_async() or do_swap_page() in the
> >>> SWP_SYNCHRONOUS_IO path. Both of which allocate order-0 folios, so we
> >>> are fine for now.
> >>>
> >>> Add a VM_BUG_ON() in zswap_load() to make sure that we detect changes in
> >>> the order of those allocations without proper handling of zswap.
> >>>
> >>> Alternatively, swap_read_folio() (or its callers) can be updated to have
> >>> a fallback mechanism that splits large folios or reads subpages
> >>> separately. Similar logic may be needed anyway in case part of a large
> >>> folio is already in the swapcache and the rest of it is swapped out.
> >>>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
> >>> ---
> >>>
> >>> Sorry for the long CC list, I just found myself repeatedly looking at
> >>> new series that add swap support for mTHPs / large folios, making sure
> >>> they do not break with zswap or make incorrect assumptions. This debug
> >>> check should give us some peace of mind. Hopefully this patch will also
> >>> raise awareness among people who are working on this.
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> mm/zswap.c | 3 +++
> >>> 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
> >>>
> >>> diff --git a/mm/zswap.c b/mm/zswap.c
> >>> index b9b35ef86d9be..6007252429bb2 100644
> >>> --- a/mm/zswap.c
> >>> +++ b/mm/zswap.c
> >>> @@ -1577,6 +1577,9 @@ bool zswap_load(struct folio *folio)
> >>> if (!entry)
> >>> return false;
> >>>
> >>> + /* Zswap loads do not handle large folio swapins correctly yet */
> >>> + VM_BUG_ON(folio_test_large(folio));
> >>> +
> >>
> >> There is no way we could have a WARN_ON_ONCE() and recover, right?
> >
> > Not without making more fundamental changes to the surrounding swap
> > code. Currently zswap_load() returns either true (folio was loaded
> > from zswap) or false (folio is not in zswap).
> >
> > To handle this correctly zswap_load() would need to tell
> > swap_read_folio() which subpages are in zswap and have been loaded,
> > and then swap_read_folio() would need to read the remaining subpages
> > from disk. This of course assumes that the caller of swap_read_folio()
> > made sure that the entire folio is swapped out and protected against
> > races with other swapins.
> >
> > Also, because swap_read_folio() cannot split the folio itself, other
> > swap_read_folio_*() functions that are called from it should be
> > updated to handle swapping in tail subpages, which may be questionable
> > in its own right.
> >
> > An alternative would be that zswap_load() (or a separate interface)
> > could tell swap_read_folio() that the folio is partially in zswap,
> > then we can just bail and tell the caller that it cannot read the
> > large folio and that it should be split.
> >
> > There may be other options as well, but the bottom line is that it is
> > possible, but probably not something that we want to do right now.
> >
> > A stronger protection method would be to introduce a config option or
> > boot parameter for large folio swapin, and then make CONFIG_ZSWAP
> > depend on it being disabled, or have zswap check it at boot and refuse
> > to be enabled if it is on.
>
> Right, sounds like the VM_BUG_ON() really is not that easily avoidable.
>
> I was wondering, if we could WARN_ON_ONCE and make the swap code detect
> this like a read-error from disk.
>
> I think do_swap_page() detects that by checking if the folio is not
> uptodate:
>
> if (unlikely(!folio_test_uptodate(folio))) {
> ret = VM_FAULT_SIGBUS;
> goto out_nomap;
> }
>
> So maybe WARN_ON_ONCE() + triggering that might be a bit nicer to the
> system (but the app would crash either way, there is no way around it).
>
I'd rather fallback to small folios swapin instead crashing apps till we fix
the large folio swapin in zswap :-)
+static struct folio *alloc_swap_folio(struct vm_fault *vmf)
+{
+ ...
+
+ if (is_zswap_enabled())
+ goto fallback;
> --
> Cheers,
>
> David / dhildenb
Thanks
Barry
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Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-06 18:48 Yosry Ahmed
[not found] ` <84d78362-e75c-40c8-b6c2-56d5d5292aa7@redhat.com>
2024-06-06 20:31 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-06 20:54 ` Barry Song
2024-06-06 21:00 ` Yosry Ahmed
[not found] ` <7507d075-9f4d-4a9b-836c-1fbb2fbd2257@redhat.com>
2024-06-06 21:30 ` Barry Song [this message]
2024-06-06 21:37 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-06 21:53 ` Barry Song
2024-06-07 7:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-07 17:43 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-07 18:52 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-07 18:58 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-07 19:03 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-07 21:13 ` Chris Li
2024-06-07 23:14 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-07 22:09 ` Barry Song
2024-06-08 0:28 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-07 21:20 ` Barry Song
2024-06-07 23:17 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-07 22:28 ` Barry Song
2024-06-08 0:32 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-06 21:36 ` Yosry Ahmed
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