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From: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
To: Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	 Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: shmem: convert to use folio_zero_range()
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:47:23 +1300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGsJ_4wZAiSFLqiNh3D+V6zPptmHLvfN8WM65BTnbckxNGq6mA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <789aba5c-e2dd-4b4c-bfac-8d534c7a9211@huawei.com>

On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 7:09 PM Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 2024/10/21 13:38, Barry Song wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 6:16 PM Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2024/10/21 12:15, Barry Song wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 8:48 PM Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2024/10/18 15:32, Kefeng Wang wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2024/10/18 13:23, Barry Song wrote:
> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 6:20 PM Kefeng Wang
> >>>>>> <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 2024/10/17 23:09, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 10:25:04PM +0800, Kefeng Wang wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Directly use folio_zero_range() to cleanup code.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Are you sure there's no performance regression introduced by this?
> >>>>>>>> clear_highpage() is often optimised in ways that we can't optimise for
> >>>>>>>> a plain memset().  On the other hand, if the folio is large, maybe a
> >>>>>>>> modern CPU will be able to do better than clear-one-page-at-a-time.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Right, I missing this, clear_page might be better than memset, I change
> >>>>>>> this one when look at the shmem_writepage(), which already convert to
> >>>>>>> use folio_zero_range() from clear_highpage(), also I grep
> >>>>>>> folio_zero_range(), there are some other to use folio_zero_range().
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> fs/bcachefs/fs-io-buffered.c:           folio_zero_range(folio, 0,
> >>>>>>> folio_size(folio));
> >>>>>>> fs/bcachefs/fs-io-buffered.c:                   folio_zero_range(f,
> >>>>>>> 0, folio_size(f));
> >>>>>>> fs/bcachefs/fs-io-buffered.c:                   folio_zero_range(f,
> >>>>>>> 0, folio_size(f));
> >>>>>>> fs/libfs.c:     folio_zero_range(folio, 0, folio_size(folio));
> >>>>>>> fs/ntfs3/frecord.c:             folio_zero_range(folio, 0,
> >>>>>>> folio_size(folio));
> >>>>>>> mm/page_io.c:   folio_zero_range(folio, 0, folio_size(folio));
> >>>>>>> mm/shmem.c:             folio_zero_range(folio, 0, folio_size(folio));
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> IOW, what performance testing have you done with this patch?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> No performance test before, but I write a testcase,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 1) allocate N large folios (folio_alloc(PMD_ORDER))
> >>>>>>> 2) then calculate the diff(us) when clear all N folios
> >>>>>>>        clear_highpage/folio_zero_range/folio_zero_user
> >>>>>>> 3) release N folios
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> the result(run 5 times) shown below on my machine,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> N=1,
> >>>>>>>            clear_highpage  folio_zero_range    folio_zero_user
> >>>>>>>       1      69                   74                 177
> >>>>>>>       2      57                   62                 168
> >>>>>>>       3      54                   58                 234
> >>>>>>>       4      54                   58                 157
> >>>>>>>       5      56                   62                 148
> >>>>>>> avg       58                   62.8               176.8
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> N=100
> >>>>>>>            clear_highpage  folio_zero_range    folio_zero_user
> >>>>>>>       1    11015                 11309               32833
> >>>>>>>       2    10385                 11110               49751
> >>>>>>>       3    10369                 11056               33095
> >>>>>>>       4    10332                 11017               33106
> >>>>>>>       5    10483                 11000               49032
> >>>>>>> avg     10516.8               11098.4             39563.4
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> N=512
> >>>>>>>            clear_highpage  folio_zero_range   folio_zero_user
> >>>>>>>       1    55560                 60055              156876
> >>>>>>>       2    55485                 60024              157132
> >>>>>>>       3    55474                 60129              156658
> >>>>>>>       4    55555                 59867              157259
> >>>>>>>       5    55528                 59932              157108
> >>>>>>> avg     55520.4               60001.4            157006.6
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> folio_zero_user with many cond_resched(), so time fluctuates a lot,
> >>>>>>> clear_highpage is better folio_zero_range as you said.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Maybe add a new helper to convert all folio_zero_range(folio, 0,
> >>>>>>> folio_size(folio))
> >>>>>>> to use clear_highpage + flush_dcache_folio?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If this also improves performance for other existing callers of
> >>>>>> folio_zero_range(), then that's a positive outcome.
> >>>>>
> ...
>
> >>> hi Kefeng,
> >>> what's your point? providing a helper like clear_highfolio() or similar?
> >>
> >> Yes, from above test, using clear_highpage/flush_dcache_folio is better
> >> than using folio_zero_range() for folio zero(especially for large
> >> folio), so I'd like to add a new helper, maybe name it folio_zero()
> >> since it zero the whole folio.
> >
> > we already have a helper like folio_zero_user()?
> > it is not good enough?
>
> Since it is with many cond_resched(), the performance is worst...

Not exactly? It should have zero cost for a preemptible kernel.
For a non-preemptible kernel, it helps avoid clearing the folio
from occupying the CPU and starving other processes, right?


  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-21  7:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-17 14:25 [PATCH] mm: shmem: avoid repeated flush dcache in shmem_writepage() Kefeng Wang
2024-10-17 14:25 ` [PATCH] mm: shmem: convert to use folio_zero_range() Kefeng Wang
2024-10-17 15:09   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-10-18  5:20     ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-18  5:23       ` Barry Song
2024-10-18  7:32         ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-18  7:47           ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21  4:15             ` Barry Song
2024-10-21  5:16               ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21  5:38                 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21  6:09                   ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21  7:47                     ` Barry Song [this message]
2024-10-21  7:55                       ` Barry Song
2024-10-21  8:14                         ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21  9:17                           ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 15:33                             ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 20:32                               ` Barry Song
2024-10-22 15:10                                 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-22 22:56                                   ` Barry Song
2024-10-24 10:10                                     ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-25  2:59                                       ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-25  7:42                                         ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-25  7:47                                           ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-25 10:21                                             ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-25 12:21                                               ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-25 13:35                                                 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-28  2:39                                                   ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-28  6:37                                                     ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-28 11:41                                                       ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-30  1:26                                                         ` Huang, Ying

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