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From: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
To: SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>
Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, damon@lists.linux.dev,
	 linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mhocko@suse.com,  hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] mm: madvise: pageout: ignore references rather than clearing young
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 04:01:40 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGsJ_4w5JF8zjsM=vEiArUpnvN9LjAdnUn98mEUJSAhg4Y9XjQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240224190724.45681-1-sj@kernel.org>

On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 3:07 AM SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Barry,
>
> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 12:37:59 +0800 Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
> >
> > BTW,
> > Hi SeongJae,
> > I am not quite sure if damon also needs this, so I have kept damon as is by
> > setting ignore_references = false.  MADV_PAGEOUT is an explicit hint users
> > don't want the memory to be reclaimed, I don't know if it is true for damon as
> > well. If you have some comments, please chime in.
>
> Thank you for calling my name :)
>
> For DAMON's usecase, the document simply says the behavior would be same to
> MADV_PAGEOUT, so if we conclude to change MADV_PAGEOUT, I think same change
> should be made for DAMON's usecase, or update DAMON document.

Hi SeongJae,

I don't find similar clearing pte young in damon_pa_pageout(), so i
guess damon's
behaviour is actually different with MADV_PAGEOUT which has  pte-clearing. damon
is probably the best-effort but MADV_PAGEOUT isn't .

static unsigned long damon_pa_pageout(struct damon_region *r, struct damos *s)
{
        unsigned long addr, applied;
        LIST_HEAD(folio_list);

        for (addr = r->ar.start; addr < r->ar.end; addr += PAGE_SIZE) {
                     struct folio *folio = damon_get_folio(PHYS_PFN(addr));
                     ....

                     if (damos_pa_filter_out(s, folio))
                                goto put_folio;

                    folio_clear_referenced(folio);
                    folio_test_clear_young(folio);
                    if (!folio_isolate_lru(folio))
                         goto put_folio;
                    if (folio_test_unevictable(folio))
                          folio_putback_lru(folio);
                    else
                          list_add(&folio->lru, &folio_list);
put_folio:
               folio_put(folio);
         }
         applied = reclaim_pages(&folio_list);
         cond_resched();
         return applied * PAGE_SIZE;
}

am i missing something?

>
>
> Thanks,
> SJ
>

Thanks
Barry


  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-24 20:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-23  4:15 Barry Song
2024-02-23 22:09 ` Minchan Kim
2024-02-23 22:20   ` Barry Song
2024-02-23 23:24     ` Minchan Kim
2024-02-24  4:37       ` Barry Song
2024-02-24 19:07         ` SeongJae Park
2024-02-24 20:01           ` Barry Song [this message]
2024-02-24 20:54             ` SeongJae Park
2024-02-24 21:54               ` Barry Song
2024-02-24 20:12           ` SeongJae Park
2024-02-24 20:33             ` Barry Song
2024-02-24 21:02               ` SeongJae Park
2024-02-24 19:02 ` SeongJae Park
2024-02-24 19:50   ` Barry Song
2024-02-24 20:02     ` SeongJae Park

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