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From: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
To: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
Cc: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,  david@redhat.com,
	chrisl@kernel.org, yuzhao@google.com, hanchuanhua@oppo.com,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, willy@infradead.org,
	xiang@kernel.org,  mhocko@suse.com, shy828301@gmail.com,
	wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com,  Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mm: hold PTL from the first PTE while reclaiming a large folio
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 22:11:37 +1300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGsJ_4w1dhqCu6UA4LGt9XDU_2jmcmWm1=E9MzX2tRv85NrLuw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6c16c7c5-8cf4-4c30-b3a5-a9ab55b21114@arm.com>

On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 10:08 PM Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com> wrote:
>
> On 05/03/2024 08:56, Barry Song wrote:
> > are writing pte to zero(break) before writing a new value(make). while
>
> As an aside, "break-before-make" as defined in the Arm architecture would also
> require a TLBI, which usually isn't done for these
> write-0-modify-prots-write-back operations. Arm doesn't require
> "break-before-make" in these situations so its legal (as long as only certain
> bits are changed). To my understanding purpose of doing this is to avoid races
> with HW access/dirty flag updates; if the MMU wants to set either flag and finds
> the PTE is 0 (invalid) it will cause an exception which will be queued waiting
> for the PTL.
>
> So I don't think you really mean break-before-make here.

I agree I use a stronger term. will change it to something lighter in v2.

>
> > this behavior is within PTL in another thread,  page_vma_mapped_walk()
> > of try_to_unmap_one thread won't take PTL till it meets a present PTE.
> > for example, if another threads are modifying nr_pages PTEs under PTL,
> > but we don't hold PTL, we might skip one or two PTEs at the beginning of
> > a large folio.
> > For a large folio, after try_to_unmap_one(), we may result in PTE0 and PTE1
> > untouched but PTE2~nr_pages-1 are set to swap entries.
> >
> > by holding PTL from PTE0 for large folios, we won't get these intermediate
> > values. At the moment we get PTL, other threads have done.
>

Thanks
Barry


      reply	other threads:[~2024-03-05  9:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-04 10:37 Barry Song
2024-03-04 12:20 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-04 12:41   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 13:03     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-04 14:27       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 20:42         ` Barry Song
2024-03-04 21:02           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 21:41             ` Barry Song
2024-03-04 21:04     ` Barry Song
2024-03-04 21:15       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 22:29         ` Barry Song
2024-03-05  7:53           ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-05  9:02             ` Barry Song
2024-03-05  9:10               ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-05  9:21                 ` Barry Song
2024-03-05 10:28                   ` Barry Song
2024-03-04 22:02       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-05  7:50     ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-04 21:57   ` Barry Song
2024-03-05  8:54     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-05  9:08       ` Barry Song
2024-03-05  9:11         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-05  9:15           ` Barry Song
2024-03-05  7:28 ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-05  8:56   ` Barry Song
2024-03-05  9:04     ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-05  9:08     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-05  9:11       ` Barry Song [this message]

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