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From: Alex Shi <lkml.alex@gmail.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Alex Shi <alex.shi@intel.com>
Subject: Re: numa/core regressions fixed - more testers wanted
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:11:20 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGjg+kE8=cp=NyHrviyRWAZ=id6sZM1Gtb0N1_+SZ2TuBHE5cw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121123133138.GA28058@gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> * Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
>
>> * Alex Shi <lkml.alex@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > >
>> > > Those of you who would like to test all the latest patches are
>> > > welcome to pick up latest bits at tip:master:
>> > >
>> > >    git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tip/tip.git master
>> > >
>> >
>> > I am wondering if it is a problem, but it still exists on HEAD: c418de93e39891
>> > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.mm/90131/match=compiled+with+name+pl+and+start+it+on+my
>> >
>> > like when just start 4 pl tasks, often 3 were running on node
>> > 0, and 1 was running on node 1. The old balance will average
>> > assign tasks to different node, different core.
>>
>> This is "normal" in the sense that the current mainline
>> scheduler is (supposed to be) doing something similar: if the
>> node is still within capacity, then there's no reason to move
>> those threads.
>>
>> OTOH, I think with NUMA balancing we indeed want to spread
>> them better, if those tasks do not share memory with each
>> other but use their own memory. If they share memory then they
>> should remain on the same node if possible.

I rewrite the little test case by assemble:
==
.text

    .global _start

_start:

do_nop:
        nop
        nop
        jmp do_nop
==
It reproduced the problem on latest tip/master, HEAD: 7cb989d0159a6f43104992f18
like for 4 above tasks running, 3 of them running on node 0, one
running on node 1.

If kernel can detect the LLC of CPU is allowed for tasks aggregate, it's a nice
feature. if not, the aggregate may cause more cache missing.


>
> Could you please check tip:master with -v17:
>
>   git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tip/tip.git master
>
> ?
>
> It should place your workload better than v16 did.
>
> Note, you might be able to find other combinations of tasks that
> are not scheduled NUMA-perfectly yet, as task group placement is
> not exhaustive yet.
>
> You might want to check which combination looks the weirdest to
> you and report it, so I can fix any remaining placement
> inefficiencies in order of importance.
>
> Thanks,
>
>         Ingo



-- 
Thanks
    Alex

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-11-26  2:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-19  2:14 [PATCH 00/27] Latest numa/core release, v16 Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 01/27] mm/generic: Only flush the local TLB in ptep_set_access_flags() Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 02/27] x86/mm: Only do a local tlb flush " Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 03/27] x86/mm: Introduce pte_accessible() Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 04/27] mm: Only flush the TLB when clearing an accessible pte Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 05/27] x86/mm: Completely drop the TLB flush from ptep_set_access_flags() Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 06/27] mm: Count the number of pages affected in change_protection() Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 07/27] mm: Optimize the TLB flush of sys_mprotect() and change_protection() users Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 08/27] sched, numa, mm: Add last_cpu to page flags Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 09/27] sched, mm, numa: Create generic NUMA fault infrastructure, with architectures overrides Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 10/27] sched: Make find_busiest_queue() a method Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 11/27] sched, numa, mm: Describe the NUMA scheduling problem formally Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 12/27] numa, mm: Support NUMA hinting page faults from gup/gup_fast Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 13/27] mm/migrate: Introduce migrate_misplaced_page() Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 14/27] sched, numa, mm, arch: Add variable locality exception Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 15/27] sched, numa, mm: Add credits for NUMA placement Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 16/27] sched, mm, x86: Add the ARCH_SUPPORTS_NUMA_BALANCING flag Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 17/27] sched, numa, mm: Add the scanning page fault machinery Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 18/27] sched: Add adaptive NUMA affinity support Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 19/27] sched: Implement constant, per task Working Set Sampling (WSS) rate Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 20/27] sched, numa, mm: Count WS scanning against present PTEs, not virtual memory ranges Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 21/27] sched: Implement slow start for working set sampling Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 22/27] sched, numa, mm: Interleave shared tasks Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 23/27] sched: Implement NUMA scanning backoff Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 24/27] sched: Improve convergence Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 25/27] sched: Introduce staged average NUMA faults Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 26/27] sched: Track groups of shared tasks Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19  2:14 ` [PATCH 27/27] sched: Use the best-buddy 'ideal cpu' in balancing decisions Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19 16:29 ` [PATCH 00/27] Latest numa/core release, v16 Mel Gorman
2012-11-19 19:13   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19 21:18     ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-19 22:36       ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19 23:00         ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-20  0:41           ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-21 10:58             ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-20  1:02         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-20  7:17           ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-20  7:37             ` David Rientjes
2012-11-20  7:48               ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-20  8:01               ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-20  8:11                 ` David Rientjes
2012-11-21 11:14               ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-20 10:20             ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-20 10:47               ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-20 15:29             ` [PATCH] mm, numa: Turn 4K pte NUMA faults into effective hugepage ones Ingo Molnar
2012-11-20 16:09               ` [PATCH, v2] " Ingo Molnar
2012-11-20 16:31                 ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-20 16:52                   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-21 12:08                     ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-21  8:12                   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-21  2:41                 ` David Rientjes
2012-11-21  9:34                   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-21 11:40                 ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-23  1:26                 ` Alex Shi
2012-11-20 17:56               ` numa/core regressions fixed - more testers wanted Ingo Molnar
2012-11-21  1:54                 ` Andrew Theurer
2012-11-21  3:22                   ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-21  4:10                     ` Hugh Dickins
2012-11-21 17:59                       ` Andrew Theurer
2012-11-21 11:52                   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-21 22:15                     ` Andrew Theurer
2012-11-21  3:33                 ` David Rientjes
2012-11-21  9:38                   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-21 11:06                   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-21  8:39                 ` Alex Shi
2012-11-22  1:21                   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-23 13:31                     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-23 15:23                       ` Alex Shi
2012-11-26  2:11                       ` Alex Shi [this message]
2012-11-28 14:21                         ` Alex Shi
2012-11-20 10:40         ` [PATCH 00/27] Latest numa/core release, v16 Ingo Molnar
2012-11-20 11:40           ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-21 10:38     ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-21 19:37       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-11-21 19:56         ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-19 20:07   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-19 21:37     ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-20  0:50   ` David Rientjes
2012-11-20  1:05     ` David Rientjes
2012-11-20  6:00       ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-20  6:20         ` David Rientjes
2012-11-20  7:44           ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-20  7:48             ` Paul Turner
2012-11-20  8:20             ` David Rientjes
2012-11-20  9:06               ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-20  9:41                 ` [patch] x86/vsyscall: Add Kconfig option to use native vsyscalls, switch to it Ingo Molnar
2012-11-20 23:01                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-11-21  0:43                   ` David Rientjes
2012-11-20 12:02                 ` [PATCH] x86/mm: Don't flush the TLB on #WP pmd fixups Ingo Molnar
2012-11-20 12:31                   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-21 11:47                     ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-21  1:22                   ` David Rientjes
2012-11-21 17:02                 ` [PATCH 00/27] Latest numa/core release, v16 Linus Torvalds
2012-11-21 17:10                   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-21 17:20                     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-22  4:31                       ` David Rientjes
2012-11-21 17:40                     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-21 22:04                     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-21 22:46                       ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-21 17:45                   ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-21 18:04                   ` Ingo Molnar

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