From: Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>
To: David Gow <davidgow@google.com>
Cc: Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
Ethan Graham <ethan.w.s.graham@gmail.com>,
andreyknvl@gmail.com, andy@kernel.org,
andy.shevchenko@gmail.com, brauner@kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/10] KFuzzTest: a new kernel fuzzing framework
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2025 11:19:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG_fn=WvdKZgmkqa09kwLLH3P_j6GFYzopeD-PZ-Qt0-1KUaGw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABVgOSkbV0idRzeMmsUEtDo=U5Tzqc116mt_=jqW-xsToec_wQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Dec 17, 2025 at 10:54 AM David Gow <davidgow@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 at 08:07, Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 12/4/25 07:12, Ethan Graham wrote:
> > > This patch series introduces KFuzzTest, a lightweight framework for
> > > creating in-kernel fuzz targets for internal kernel functions.
> > >
> > > The primary motivation for KFuzzTest is to simplify the fuzzing of
> > > low-level, relatively stateless functions (e.g., data parsers, format
> > > converters) that are difficult to exercise effectively from the syscall
> > > boundary. It is intended for in-situ fuzzing of kernel code without
> > > requiring that it be built as a separate userspace library or that its
> > > dependencies be stubbed out. Using a simple macro-based API, developers
> > > can add a new fuzz target with minimal boilerplate code.
> > >
> > > The core design consists of three main parts:
> > > 1. The `FUZZ_TEST(name, struct_type)` and `FUZZ_TEST_SIMPLE(name)`
> > > macros that allow developers to easily define a fuzz test.
> > > 2. A binary input format that allows a userspace fuzzer to serialize
> > > complex, pointer-rich C structures into a single buffer.
> > > 3. Metadata for test targets, constraints, and annotations, which is
> > > emitted into dedicated ELF sections to allow for discovery and
> > > inspection by userspace tools. These are found in
> > > ".kfuzztest_{targets, constraints, annotations}".
> > >
> > > As of September 2025, syzkaller supports KFuzzTest targets out of the
> > > box, and without requiring any hand-written descriptions - the fuzz
> > > target and its constraints + annotations are the sole source of truth.
> > >
> > > To validate the framework's end-to-end effectiveness, we performed an
> > > experiment by manually introducing an off-by-one buffer over-read into
> > > pkcs7_parse_message, like so:
> > >
> > > - ret = asn1_ber_decoder(&pkcs7_decoder, ctx, data, datalen);
> > > + ret = asn1_ber_decoder(&pkcs7_decoder, ctx, data, datalen + 1);
> > >
> > > A syzkaller instance fuzzing the new test_pkcs7_parse_message target
> > > introduced in patch 7 successfully triggered the bug inside of
> > > asn1_ber_decoder in under 30 seconds from a cold start. Similar
> > > experiments on the other new fuzz targets (patches 8-9) also
> > > successfully identified injected bugs, proving that KFuzzTest is
> > > effective when paired with a coverage-guided fuzzing engine.
> > >
> >
> > As discussed at LPC, the tight tie between one single external user-space
> > tool isn't something I am in favor of. The reason being, if the userspace
> > app disappears all this kernel code stays with no way to trigger.
> >
> > Ethan and I discussed at LPC and I asked Ethan to come up with a generic way
> > to trigger the fuzz code that doesn't solely depend on a single users-space
> > application.
> >
>
> FWIW, the included kfuzztest-bridge utility works fine as a separate,
> in-tree way of triggering the fuzz code. It's definitely not totally
> standalone, but can be useful with some ad-hoc descriptions and piping
> through /dev/urandom or similar. (Personally, I think it'd be a really
> nice way of distributing reproducers.)
>
> The only thing really missing would be having the kfuzztest-bridge
> interface descriptions available (or, ideally, autogenerated somehow).
> Maybe a simple wrapper to run it in a loop as a super-basic
> (non-guided) fuzzer, if you wanted to be fancy.
>
> -- David
An alternative Ethan and I discussed was implementing only
FUZZ_TEST_SIMPLE for the initial commit.
It wouldn't even need the bridge tool, because the inputs are
unstructured, and triggering them would involve running `head -c N
/dev/urandom > /sys/kernel/debug/kfuzztest/TEST_NAME/input_simple`
This won't let us pass complex data structures from the userspace, but
we can revisit that when there's an actual demand for it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-17 10:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-04 14:12 Ethan Graham
2025-12-04 14:12 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm/kasan: implement kasan_poison_range Ethan Graham
2025-12-04 15:17 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-12-04 15:31 ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-12-04 14:12 ` [PATCH 02/10] kfuzztest: add user-facing API and data structures Ethan Graham
2025-12-04 14:12 ` [PATCH 03/10] kfuzztest: introduce the FUZZ_TEST_SIMPLE macro Ethan Graham
2025-12-04 14:12 ` [PATCH 05/10] tools: add kfuzztest-bridge utility Ethan Graham
2025-12-07 6:38 ` kernel test robot
2025-12-04 14:12 ` [PATCH 06/10] kfuzztest: add ReST documentation Ethan Graham
2025-12-04 14:12 ` [PATCH 07/10] kfuzztest: add KFuzzTest sample fuzz targets Ethan Graham
2025-12-04 14:12 ` [PATCH 08/10] crypto: implement KFuzzTest targets for PKCS7 and RSA parsing Ethan Graham
2025-12-04 14:12 ` [PATCH 09/10] drivers/auxdisplay: add a KFuzzTest for parse_xy() Ethan Graham
2025-12-04 15:26 ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-12-04 15:28 ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-12-04 15:32 ` Marco Elver
2025-12-04 15:34 ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-12-04 15:35 ` Marco Elver
2025-12-04 15:42 ` Marco Elver
2025-12-04 15:56 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-12-04 17:10 ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-12-04 21:38 ` Ethan Graham
2025-12-08 0:58 ` kernel test robot
2025-12-04 14:12 ` [PATCH 10/10] MAINTAINERS: add maintainer information for KFuzzTest Ethan Graham
2025-12-12 8:01 ` [PATCH v3 00/10] KFuzzTest: a new kernel fuzzing framework Luis Chamberlain
2025-12-12 15:09 ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-12-13 0:06 ` Shuah Khan
2025-12-17 9:53 ` David Gow
2025-12-17 10:19 ` Alexander Potapenko [this message]
2025-12-17 10:31 ` Johannes Berg
2025-12-17 1:08 ` Wentao Zhang
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