From: Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>
To: Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>
Cc: kasan-dev@googlegroups.com, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Dmitriy Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
Andrey Ryabinin <ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrey Konovalov <adech.fo@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 5/8] mm, kasan: Stackdepot implementation. Enable stackdepot for SLAB
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 19:37:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG_fn=UwMgXJkgKhSa6Qsr_2jqQi8exZj7b8eoe+WK-_7aD5cA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160201025530.GD32125@js1304-P5Q-DELUXE>
On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 3:55 AM, Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 02:27:44PM +0100, Alexander Potapenko wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Jan 28, 2016 8:40 AM, "Joonsoo Kim" <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 07:25:10PM +0100, Alexander Potapenko wrote:
>> >> > Stack depot will allow KASAN store allocation/deallocation stack traces
>> >> > for memory chunks. The stack traces are stored in a hash table and
>> >> > referenced by handles which reside in the kasan_alloc_meta and
>> >> > kasan_free_meta structures in the allocated memory chunks.
>> >>
>> >> Looks really nice!
>> >>
>> >> Could it be more generalized to be used by other feature that need to
>> >> store stack trace such as tracepoint or page owner?
>> > Certainly yes, but see below.
>> >
>> >> If it could be, there is one more requirement.
>> >> I understand the fact that entry is never removed from depot makes things
>> >> very simpler, but, for general usecases, it's better to use reference
>> >> count
>> >> and allow to remove. Is it possible?
>> > For our use case reference counting is not really necessary, and it would
>> > introduce unwanted contention.
>
> Okay.
>
>> > There are two possible options, each having its advantages and drawbacks: we
>> > can let the clients store the refcounters directly in their stacks (more
>> > universal, but harder to use for the clients), or keep the counters in the
>> > depot but add an API that does not change them (easier for the clients, but
>> > potentially error-prone).
>> > I'd say it's better to actually find at least one more user for the stack
>> > depot in order to understand the requirements, and refactor the code after
>> > that.
>
> I re-think the page owner case and it also may not need refcount.
> For now, just moving this stuff to /lib would be helpful for other future user.
I agree this code may need to be moved to /lib someday, but I wouldn't
hurry with that.
Right now it is quite KASAN-specific, and it's unclear yet whether
anyone else is going to use it.
I suggest we keep it in mm/kasan for now, and factor the common parts
into /lib when the need arises.
> BTW, is there any performance number? I guess that it could affect
> the performance.
I've compared the performance of KASAN with SLAB allocator on a small
synthetic benchmark in two modes: with stack depot enabled and with
kasan_save_stack() unconditionally returning 0.
In the former case 8% more time was spent in the kernel than in the latter case.
If I am not mistaking, for SLUB allocator the bookkeeping (enabled
with the slub_debug=UZ boot options) take only 1.5 time, so the
difference is worth looking into (at least before we switch SLUB to
stack depot).
> Thanks.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-16 18:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-01-27 18:25 [PATCH v1 0/8] SLAB support for KASAN Alexander Potapenko
2016-01-27 18:25 ` [PATCH v1 1/8] kasan: Change the behavior of kmalloc_large_oob_right test Alexander Potapenko
2016-02-02 5:34 ` Andrew Morton
2016-02-02 15:29 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2016-02-02 16:25 ` Alexander Potapenko
2016-02-15 14:05 ` Alexander Potapenko
2016-01-27 18:25 ` [PATCH v1 2/8] mm, kasan: SLAB support Alexander Potapenko
2016-01-28 7:44 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-01-28 12:37 ` Alexander Potapenko
2016-01-28 13:29 ` Alexander Potapenko
2016-02-01 2:15 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-02-18 12:58 ` Alexander Potapenko
2016-02-19 1:41 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-02-19 12:57 ` Alexander Potapenko
2016-01-27 18:25 ` [PATCH v1 3/8] mm, kasan: Added GFP flags to KASAN API Alexander Potapenko
2016-01-27 18:25 ` [PATCH v1 4/8] arch, ftrace: For KASAN put hard/soft IRQ entries into separate sections Alexander Potapenko
2016-01-28 14:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2016-01-29 11:33 ` Alexander Potapenko
2016-01-29 11:59 ` Alexander Potapenko
2016-01-29 14:45 ` Steven Rostedt
2016-02-16 15:32 ` Alexander Potapenko
2016-01-27 18:25 ` [PATCH v1 5/8] mm, kasan: Stackdepot implementation. Enable stackdepot for SLAB Alexander Potapenko
2016-01-28 7:40 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-01-28 12:51 ` Alexander Potapenko
2016-01-28 13:27 ` Alexander Potapenko
2016-02-01 2:55 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-02-16 18:37 ` Alexander Potapenko [this message]
2016-02-17 18:29 ` Alexander Potapenko
2016-02-18 8:13 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-02-18 15:01 ` Alexander Potapenko
2016-02-18 7:58 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-01-27 18:25 ` [PATCH v1 6/8] kasan: Test fix: Warn if the UAF could not be detected in kmalloc_uaf2 Alexander Potapenko
2016-01-27 18:25 ` [PATCH v1 7/8] kasan: Changed kmalloc_large_oob_right, added kmalloc_pagealloc_oob_right Alexander Potapenko
2016-01-27 18:25 ` [PATCH v1 8/8] mm: kasan: Initial memory quarantine implementation Alexander Potapenko
2016-02-01 2:47 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-02-18 14:06 ` Alexander Potapenko
2016-02-19 2:11 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-02-19 9:19 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2016-02-19 15:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-02-23 7:23 ` Joonsoo Kim
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