From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>
Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Laura Abbott <labbott@fedoraproject.org>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm: Use kernel mm when updating section permissions
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 17:15:43 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGXu5jLS8GPxmMQwd9qw+w+fkMqU-GYyME5WUuKZZ4qTesVzCQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <563BFCC4.8050705@redhat.com>
On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 11/05/2015 08:27 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 05, 2015 at 08:20:42AM -0800, Laura Abbott wrote:
>>>
>>> On 11/05/2015 01:46 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 04, 2015 at 05:00:39PM -0800, Laura Abbott wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently, read only permissions are not being applied even
>>>>> when CONFIG_DEBUG_RODATA is set. This is because section_update
>>>>> uses current->mm for adjusting the page tables. current->mm
>>>>> need not be equivalent to the kernel version. Use pgd_offset_k
>>>>> to get the proper page directory for updating.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What are you trying to achieve here? You can't use these functions
>>>> at run time (after the first thread has been spawned) to change
>>>> permissions, because there will be multiple copies of the kernel
>>>> section mappings, and those copies will not get updated.
>>>>
>>>> In any case, this change will probably break kexec and ftrace, as
>>>> the running thread will no longer see the updated page tables.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think I was hitting that exact problem with multiple copies
>>> not getting updated. The section_update code was being called
>>> and I was seeing the tables get updated but nothing was being
>>> applied when I tried to write to text or check the debugfs
>>> page table. The current flow is:
>>>
>>> rest_init -> kernel_thread(kernel_init) and from that thread
>>> mark_rodata_ro. So mark_rodata_ro is always going to happen
>>> in a thread.
>>>
>>> Do we need to update for both init_mm and the first running
>>> thread?
>>
>>
>> The "first running thread" is merely coincidental for things like kexec.
>>
>> Hmm. Actually, I think the existing code _should_ be fine. At the
>> point where mark_rodata_ro() is, we should still be using init_mm, so
>> updating the current threads page tables should actually be updating
>> the swapper_pg_dir.
>
>
> That doesn't seem to hold true. Based on what I'm seeing, we lose
> the the guarantee of init_mm after the first exec. If usermodehelper
> gets called to load a module, that triggers an exec and the kernel
> thread is no longer using init_mm after that. I'm testing with the
> multi-v7 defconfig which uses the smsc911x driver which loads a
> module during initcall. That gets called before mark_rodata_ro so
> the init_mm is never updated. I verified that disabling smsc911x
> makes things work as expected. I suspect the testing was never done
> with a driver that tried to call usermodehelper during init time.
Ooooh. Nice catch. Yeah, my testing didn't include that case.
> I got as far as narrowing it down that it happens after the usermodehelper
> but I wasn't able to pinpoint where exactly the switch happened. It seems
> like we need to have the page tables set up before any initcalls
> happen otherwise we risk having an exec create stray processes which we
> can't update.
Can we just make mark_rodata_ro() a no-op and do the RO setting
earlier when we do the NX setting?
-Kees
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-06 1:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-05 1:00 Laura Abbott
2015-11-05 1:06 ` Kees Cook
2015-11-05 1:13 ` Kees Cook
2015-11-05 9:46 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-05 16:20 ` Laura Abbott
2015-11-05 16:27 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-06 1:05 ` Laura Abbott
2015-11-06 1:15 ` Kees Cook [this message]
2015-11-06 18:44 ` Laura Abbott
2015-11-06 19:08 ` Kees Cook
2015-11-06 19:12 ` Kees Cook
2015-11-06 20:11 ` Kevin Hilman
2015-11-06 20:28 ` Kees Cook
2015-11-06 21:06 ` Kevin Hilman
2015-11-06 21:19 ` Kees Cook
2015-11-06 22:37 ` Kevin Hilman
2015-11-06 23:05 ` Kevin Hilman
2015-11-06 23:47 ` Kees Cook
2015-11-06 20:46 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-06 23:41 ` Laura Abbott
2015-11-06 23:49 ` Kees Cook
2015-11-07 0:20 ` Laura Abbott
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