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From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@parallels.com>,
	Andres Lagar-Cavilla <andreslc@google.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>, Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
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	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm v9 0/8] idle memory tracking
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 12:18:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGXu5jLPT-2c_H3kjCzbVgRKQO0xMskVd7JcAMmWZSmFgzZ4ng@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150721163402.43ad2527d9b8caa476a1c9e1@linux-foundation.org>

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Andrew Morton
<akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 15:31:09 +0300 Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@parallels.com> wrote:
>> To mark a page idle one should set the bit corresponding to the
>>    page by writing to the file. A value written to the file is OR-ed with the
>>    current bitmap value. Only user memory pages can be marked idle, for other
>>    page types input is silently ignored. Writing to this file beyond max PFN
>>    results in the ENXIO error. Only available when CONFIG_IDLE_PAGE_TRACKING is
>>    set.
>>
>>    This file can be used to estimate the amount of pages that are not
>>    used by a particular workload as follows:
>>
>>    1. mark all pages of interest idle by setting corresponding bits in the
>>       /proc/kpageidle bitmap
>>    2. wait until the workload accesses its working set
>>    3. read /proc/kpageidle and count the number of bits set
>
> Security implications.  This interface could be used to learn about a
> sensitive application by poking data at it and then observing its
> memory access patterns.  Perhaps this is why the proc files are
> root-only (whcih I assume is sufficient).  Some words here about the
> security side of things and the reasoning behind the chosen permissions
> would be good to have.

As long as this stays true-root-only, I think it should be safe enough.

>>  * /proc/kpagecgroup.  This file contains a 64-bit inode number of the
>>    memory cgroup each page is charged to, indexed by PFN.
>
> Actually "closest online ancestor".  This also should be in the
> interface documentation.
>
>> Only available when CONFIG_MEMCG is set.
>
> CONFIG_MEMCG and CONFIG_IDLE_PAGE_TRACKING I assume?
>
>>
>>    This file can be used to find all pages (including unmapped file
>>    pages) accounted to a particular cgroup. Using /proc/kpageidle, one
>>    can then estimate the cgroup working set size.
>>
>> For an example of using these files for estimating the amount of unused
>> memory pages per each memory cgroup, please see the script attached
>> below.
>
> Why were these put in /proc anyway?  Rather than under /sys/fs/cgroup
> somewhere?  Presumably because /proc/kpageidle is useful in non-memcg
> setups.

Do we need a /proc/vm/ for holding these kinds of things? We're
collecting a lot there. Or invent some way for this to be sensible in
/sys?

-Kees

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Kees Cook
Chrome OS Security

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-07-27 19:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-19 12:31 Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:31 ` [PATCH -mm v9 1/8] memcg: add page_cgroup_ino helper Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-21 23:34   ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-22  9:21     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:31 ` [PATCH -mm v9 2/8] hwpoison: use page_cgroup_ino for filtering by memcg Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-21 23:34   ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-22  9:45     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:31 ` [PATCH -mm v9 3/8] memcg: zap try_get_mem_cgroup_from_page Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:31 ` [PATCH -mm v9 4/8] proc: add kpagecgroup file Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-21 23:34   ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-22 10:33     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:31 ` [PATCH -mm v9 5/8] mmu-notifier: add clear_young callback Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-20 18:34   ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2015-07-21  8:51     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-22 16:33       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:31 ` [PATCH -mm v9 6/8] proc: add kpageidle file Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-21 23:34   ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-22 15:20     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-24 14:08   ` Paul Gortmaker
2015-07-24 14:17     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:31 ` [PATCH -mm v9 7/8] proc: export idle flag via kpageflags Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-21 23:35   ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-22 16:25     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-22 19:44       ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-22 20:46         ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2015-07-23  7:57           ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:31 ` [PATCH -mm v9 8/8] proc: add cond_resched to /proc/kpage* read/write loop Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:37 ` [PATCH -mm v9 0/8] idle memory tracking Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-21 21:39 ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2015-07-21 23:34 ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-22 16:23   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-25 16:24     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-27 19:18   ` Kees Cook [this message]
2015-07-27 19:25     ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-29 12:36 ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-29 13:59   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 14:12     ` Michel Lespinasse
2015-07-29 14:13       ` Michel Lespinasse
2015-07-29 14:45       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 15:08         ` Michel Lespinasse
2015-07-29 15:31           ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 15:34             ` Michel Lespinasse
2015-07-29 15:08         ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-29 15:36           ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 15:58             ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-29 14:26     ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-29 15:28       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 15:47         ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-29 16:29           ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 21:30             ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-30  9:12               ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-30 13:01                 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-31  9:34                   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-30  9:07             ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-30  9:31               ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 15:55         ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2015-07-29 16:37           ` Vladimir Davydov

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